You do now that Mr. Giffen has been involved in almost all aspects of what has transpired to his team, and is a major consultant on what is going on with Infinite Crisis and 52.

I think that DC should take an idea from Marvel and make Jason Todd a clone of the original, turn him into the Ben Reilly of DC. Beastly Batman anyone?

I don't see todd's death as heroic. I see it as a stupid kid who should have followed orders. Batman TOLD him to wait before confronting Joker, but the kid was to impulsive and reckless. Batman knew it but had to make a choice at the time.

The story was a fine example of WHY he rides his Robin's so much. the training needed and the price of recklessness. And a reminder to batman of What happens if he Screws up.

Now how is that gonna look when Jason starts killing everyone, and Bruce and the others start WISHING he was dead.

It doesn't make sense. Red Hood has made reference to his "death" at the hands of the Joker, and even retaliated by beating Joker with a crowbar. None of that actually happened to the pre-Crisis Jason Todd.

jason todd beating joker with a crowbar? that would be fun to read, what TPB is that in?

also, is this newly resurected jason todd tall with grey sideburns, like in the Hush book, or is he a kid still?

Colossus' death was not "pointless suicide for no reason" he heard his sister Illyana had died of the legacy virus, and he didn't want any other mutant to feel like he did just then, so he went into beast's lab, and injected himself with the cure, dissolving into gas that blanketed the earth and cured everyone of the legacy virus.

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In Astonishing x-men, we find that the inhabitants of Breakworld were responsible for the legacy virus, that is where Stryfe got it from.

Ummm... I don't remember reading that. When did they say that?

when colossus is having a flashback of ord standing over him on the operating table and says to him "congratulations, piotr rasputin, you have saved your planet from the legacy virus, and you will now pay for that with your life" and then they proceed to do a buncha experiments on poor piotr.

the breakworldians created the legacy virus (and later, the wretched poison which turns mutants into humans) to get rid of mutants, because they had it on reliably intel that a mutant, most probably an x-man would destroy breakworld in the next 3 years. This is gonna be a good series, but I do have one question, how did jean die this time?

Ok, I remember them being annoyed the LV didnt' kill all the mutants. I also remember that a mutant was going to wipe out their planet. What I don't see a connection between breakworld and the time traveling clone of Cable. It seems a bit of a leap to connect the two on the available evidence.

My biggest beef with Marvel's writers is that the characterization is all wrong. For the most part, the creators are being put in a position where they're totally unfamiliar with the characters and their history. For instance, New Avengers #2 took all kinds of flak because David Finch couldn't tell Jigsaw from Piledriver. Spider-Man had his arm broken by someone without the skill or strength to do it, and the credibility of the story suffered.

When I start my crusade, New Avengers is the title I hang from a flagpole! Ask anyone reading New Avengers to define Tony Stark in 10 words or less. They'll say, "millionaire playboy, alcoholic", and they'd be dead wrong. Those are two aspects of his life, but that's not what drives him, that's not who he is. Tony Stark is a brilliant, arrogant western capitalist. Strip him of everything he knows and loves, and that's what you find underneath. The time he spent drinking and enjoying the company of beautiful women was an escape from his life, and his vices became too much for him to control. Tony's membership in the Avengers is only worth what time and effort he's invested in them. He'll pull rank when it suits his interests, but more often than not, he is dead-set in the idea that his way is the best way. He is logical to a fault, a scientist. He handles Avengers business like he would his affairs at the office, fall in line and follow the plans and protocols, or leave. Tony would NEVER allow Wolverine to join the team. Calling him an "honorable samurai" is preposterous.

Brubaker almost had me with Captain America. Issue 5 was great as a standalone story because it added another level to Bucky's character without conflicting with what was already there. The whole basis for everything that came after was wretched. Bucky was blown to pieces, that much is fact. When you tell me Bucky only lost an arm, and Cap let himself drift to his death by mistake, that changes the whole motivation of the character. That's like saying that Bruce Wayne's parents didn't really die after all, they just ran away to join the circus. They left Bruce his fortune, and that childhood trauma provided the motivation to adopt an orphaned acrobat! "We don't care about continuity as long as it's a good story" be damned, it's WRONG!

Marvel says a lot of things to bait people into buying their books. Remember when they said they wouldn't print 2nd prints, and called them variant covers instead?

actually hal did die

he died during the incident known as Final Night in which hal spent the majority of the parallax power to absorb the sun-eater and keep the sun from going nova which inturn cost him his life. at the end saturn girl even states hal is dead. and the whole spectre thing, first off you need to be dead to assume the mantle of the spectre. and if you remember in gl: rebirth after hal's soul is seperated from parallax he starts heading toward the light(i.e. heaven) his dad and abin sur are telling him he did good and ganthet sends the green energy for hal's Soul to follow. so hal was dead.

The Hal complette story was well done, very well BUT with all the things what happen to him in my opinion he now can just be not a Green Lantern. He must be a Vertigo character...

Think about it, Hero-villian-Spectre-resurrected! he must be a great character who can walk with dead people and people who live, he can be the green light of hope who help to the sould to get to the next step.

too bad that will never happen.

I never understend why Spectre is not a Vertigo character.

See, back when Stryfe let loose the Legacy virus, the comic writers would not know the name Ord of Breakworld. It is a new character tying into an old story line, it is kind of like the topic at hand, but I think that in this instance, the addition to the continuity is well-done. I do agree it's a little of a leap, but Ord took responsibility for the virus, he had a motive for releasing it to a madman who would certainly use it, and Stryfe is too crazy to have made it himself.

I like Whedon's writing, and do you know how Jean Grey died in astonishing x-men?

Pheonix Jean is the only character who can have perimsion to die and return because that is whart the character is.

Now other characteres don't have or must don't have that change. I don't like the rule of the writers of "play with the toys and after you play get all to the same place like before" I like more the rule "do a story for remember and god help to keep that story without be ruined by the next writer of this collection"

I do like the Byrne storys: "This is the origim, now all what you know is true but there is something really big what you don't know what will change everything"

Wait..... Mags was killed by Morrison? Thought that was Xorn? My mistake.