It's OK, he'll clone Cap from a single hair he saved from Cap from the first time they met. Easy!

Fixed that for ya.

Agreed. I can't even believe that this point is being debated.

Eh, I'm just not impressed with the writer. Matt Fraction, is it? It feels like he's not even really writing the Punisher.

Yes, he's NOT dead

He's

Its called "marketing". His "death" is explained in that very word. Come on now, do they ever "kill" off money makers? Sure they have them die for a little while, a la superman, but seriously, they have a Captain America movie scheduled for 2008. Its called free publicity, and yeah, I love comics and I enjoy them as much as any of you who read them, but you're all seriously fooling yourself trying to figure out the reasoning for killing him off when it is so simple. Think about it. Major news stations report about it, its on the front page of news papers, etc. You cannot buy that kind of publicity, and they didn't have to, they got it for free. Now, all those who were sorta interested in comics are sucked right back in..."oh wow, a major character was offed, I wonder what happens next?" Think about it from a business sense, would marvel or dc ever really kill of any of their big names and start over with a new guard? No. Thats why superman is back alive, batman has never really died, same goes for spiderman, wolverine, wonderwoman and the hulk. These are household names for the most part to anyone who has an ounce of knowledge about popular culture. The whole thing is boiled down into simple dollars and cents. It makes money to kill off a big name character, create controversy and then bring him back with some convoluted explaination. i mean colossus came back because fans demanded it, and he's not nearly even close to cap in poplularity. There is no mystery what so ever, death sells, and bringing back to life sells. Thats it.

Sales are the point. They are the purpose of his whole "existence". If sales improve with a new Cap, then they may keep the new Cap.
I am not endorsing this, as reflected in my previous post, but it is a factor.

Me? I stand ready for "Reign of the Captain Americas", starring the Punisher as the violent Captain America, Bucky as the young Captain America, The Falcon as the African-American Captain America, and a mystery character to be named later as the Cyborg Captain America... Maybe Silvermane.

I agree that it is marketing that killed Cap. And after I've had some time to think clearly about it, I know he'll come back and I'm going to keep collecting the book to see what happens. I just hope that Brubaker keeps writing it, I really like what he's done with Cap anyways and I hope he'll do it justice.

They will probably have some sort of Captain America Origins comic or something like the Wolverine one...a newer one that documents some of his known past and maybe some of his undocumented adventures...keep him around while still having his death affect the current universe.

Well from what I've read Thor was never killed...he just like shut down and is floating through deep space and he is just MIA to everyone

I disagree about one thing...his death was VERY symbolic and couldn't of been done much better.

He was killed handcuffed on the courthouse steps by someone he trusted...it makes a BIG statement against Iron Man and what he has brought their America too.

I agree, I think it should be a newer hero type that keeps with the ideals of the old Cap.

Could Peter Parker not be one?

I'm just curious because when she said Daredevil he said close...was Iron Fist there? I can't remember...if he wasn't it could be him...

By drive up sales do you mean make their story interesting and intriguing so people will buy it? Well I for one am glad they are attempting to make a product worth reading...

Um...there were like over 50 civilian casualties due to the war...

What if they were never dead to begin with though? They could always go that route.

Or at least everybody THINKS he is dead...

They'll freeze Cap's body and thaw him out in the future, where he'll be healed with nanotechnology and chase after the umpteenth clone of Red Skull. Cap will finally perish in the future in a heroic act, after which his shield is sold and lost in the intergalactic black market; it finally ends up in the hands of Vance Astro.

CW blows, imho.

I have this terrible, and I mean TERRIBLE gut feeling that Cap is alive in the Heroes Reborn universe and again drawn by Rob Liefeld.

All we need to do is wait for Franklin Richards to bail him out

Sorry, I stopped reading right there. You actually believed Superman was actually dead?

This won't do anything for sales except maybe a blip of a month or two. Which I am sure would be balanced out by all the ill will they are reaping from the fans for doing it.

And if we can see that from in the trenches, then Marvel should be able to see it from their skyscraper.

He was, though. And then through a convoluted series of events involving the afterlife, sunlight and a Reign on everyone's parade, he came back to life. With long hair. And such.

It really doesn't matter whether or not STEVE ROGERS comes back. Is really dead or not.
The Bottom line for me is that it is Wrong. The way They Killed Captain America is wrong. Why they Did it is wrong and the whole way the Comic book Industry and Marvel is headed is just Unsettling to me. And Wrong.
Maybe I am a Dinosaur like Cap. Maybe I am having a Hard time Like Cap fitting into this new Comic world of Extreme Violence and lack of Morality the Characters seem to have now.
Mr Queseda(Please pardon the spelling if it is wrong) was Entrusted with a Symbol. A part of our American Mythology. And he blew it.
When I was a kid growing up I had a Horrible time in school with bullies. i was the classic Comicbook geek. Big into Art(Drawing and writing) and had no sports Gene. I was Tortured by Bullies. And I mean Tortured.
And what helped me?(Feel free to start laughing at me) Yes, Captain America, Jack Kirby and Stan Lee helped me stand up to Bullies and to say Enough. Just because someone is stronger does not make them right. Captain America Stands for something. He stands for Tolerance and Compassion. He stands for Strength in truth and Honor.
The Marvel Universe was full of Flawed heros but HEROS just the same. they may loss a battle but never the War. Never stop fighting and never stop believing.
We Need Captain America Now more than Ever and Marvel took him away from us. Now they are going to Disgrace the costume by letting a Cold blooded killer wear it? That is just wrong, So is Marvel and Mr Queseda.

This story has no charisma at all.

I'm not such a Caps fan, but lately he seemed much more acceptable for me. Acceptable in the way Uncle Sam is... he talk's about america and stuff but not in any political direction, so that's cool with me. Iron man is looking like a jerk to me right now anyway.

First they made Caps surrender (O_o), leaving his army at the hands of the pro-registration side, and now he gets killed in a not-heroic-at-all way. Dumbass way to take out a character with so many years on his shoulders.

It was his idea in so much that he had it planned 2 years down the road after way more development. (Sharon turning a gun on Captain America). The rest of it (including cap's death) seemed up in the air to him... or likely being generous and wasn't definitly.

I find it funny that he killed Capatin America because he didn't want to do a jail story or (The most logical way Redskull would strike back.) a Cap finding America Story.

He killed Captain America cause he was sick with his options as a writer. That's great.

Well atleast he's talented and the Death wasn't written by some hack.

I hope Punnisher is Cap for a few issues and goes all crazy gunning down villains. It'll show just how much Marvel really doesn't get it. It's going from gritty to just depressing.