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02/26/2009, 18:32

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Veteran Origin Steel takes everyone down any day.

Eh . . .

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02/26/2009, 18:34

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I can't believe I forgot about E Fatality! I used to use her ALL THE TIME. One of the best TKers in the game.

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02/26/2009, 18:46

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Local game store had this event last week

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300 pts, Black History Month (no "White Powers" and all figures must be of African Descent)

Problem with this is that it leaves out some nice figures

Avengers
Falcon

Justice League
Parasite
Firestorm

Mutations & Monsters
Storm

Crisis
Lead
Black Adam

Secret Invasion
Goliath
Cloak and Dagger
Power Man and Iron Fist Maybe iffy on these last two since they are paired up with white figure)

Arkham Assylum
Amanda Waller
Black Manta
Crispus Allen

Alberta, Canada Thread
Family Connections in HC
Edmonton HC Facebook group
Heroclix Google Docs

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02/26/2009, 18:57

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Great idea for an article- but did you really have to hate on Nick Fury? A click that is 63 points would have to be pretty bad to deserve being singled out like that. Not to mention that Nick Fury is incredible!

Bronze Tiger is amazing- great choice.

No Bishop from M&M love? I personally love that piece.

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02/26/2009, 21:16

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Quote : Originally Posted by anonym0use

[size="1"][i]NOTE:

Just a side note: One of my peers mentioned that I use the term black in this article rather than the term African-American or minority. This is intentional. It is not appropriate to use the term minority as that would expand the scope of this article to more than just blacks; and it is not appropriate to use the term African-American, as it would not apply to the Black Panther (T’challa), who is not American (he is Wakandan).

Great Absolutely Great! Just this part puts a smile on my face. Even in this new century people still concentrate to much on color and being PC, but that's a discussion for another time. But thank you for this article.

02/26/2009, 21:43

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Quote : Originally Posted by anonym0use

As an aside, I'd like to point out John Ostrander's brilliant work in the 80's that was IMO groundbreaking in terms of upping the color quotient in 4-color funnybooks.

Case in point: The Suicide Squad was a well written non-blaxploitation book that featured a number of leading rolls for minorities, more than I've ever seen in a book in that time frame, and perhaps beyond.

The book featured several African Americans including:

Amanda Waller as Leader of the squad (how I hate it when someone villainizes her)
Bronze Tiger, who was apointed to team leader after Flag steppped out of the picture
Vixen, again in another team leader role.

It was so against the grain that it was refreshing.

Now if only we could get DC to reprint his work...

Totally agree. Ostrander's Suicide Squad is my favorite comic book series, bar none.

Thele, I like this article. I disagree on some of your choices for top 3 pieces, and I really don't think that War Machine and Nick Fury are overrated, but I liked reading your opinion on the pieces. Thanks for putting forth the effort!

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02/26/2009, 21:58

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While I have seen much better ideas for a thread.....and a few thousand worse.....Skullbuster rev would be the #1 pick for me.

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02/27/2009, 06:52

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Just a note, using the rationale that Black History Month is only for people of African descent, that would include Charlize Theron.

Also, Fatality is an alien from Xanshi. I'm not sure if she counts as 'black' for these purposes.

And I'm sad that there's no love for Knuckles.

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02/27/2009, 08:42

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Quote : Originally Posted by turdburglar47

Just a note, using the rationale that Black History Month is only for people of African descent, that would include Charlize Theron.

The man makes a good point.

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Also, Fatality is an alien from Xanshi. I'm not sure if she counts as 'black' for these purposes.

Well if Australian Aborigines count then I don't see why not. Spock may be a Vulcan, but he's also a white Vulcan, just as Tuvok is a black Vulcan.

But then I guess by that logic all Klingons would be considered black. Hmmm....

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02/27/2009, 13:27

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I just wanted to add that while I might not agree with everything The Le writes I still enjoy his articles and appreciate them being put on the front page. If only more of us put so much time towards sharing our thoughts and feelings with the clix community.

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02/27/2009, 13:39

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Quote : Originally Posted by TheVagrantKing

Pretty sure I disagree with everything said here (Aside from the history bit.) and Bronze Tiger.

Goliath has a soft opening with Willpower, and has to push onto any kind of damage reduction. Low ish AV (Similar to Black Lightning's) and 0 move and attack ability.

Nick Fury is a -great- secondary attacker. Paired with a Warskrull or Iron Widow or Winter Soldier on a Spy theme team, he's offering loads of utility, as well as a 3 damage Psychic Blast click. Works wonders with Protected. Bishop, similarly, i feel is under-rated (as I've never heard anything great about him). He's got a good AV and staying power, for a relatively cheap cost. Personally, I'd lean towards the R as being he best of the bunch.

Great Black figures that aren't even mentioned?

Black Panther - Still the cheapest stealthed outwit in the game, and still always a bother to deal with. The Avengers BP is similarly a great secondary attacker/Utility piece.

Storm - Her Danger Room V is a positively divine (cause she's a goddess, get it!?) secondary attacker, whom can dole out the pain with that 10 range and RCE for...what? 40 points? With a 10 AV? Bonkers. On top of that, there's the Monsters and Mutations SR Storm, who wreaks havok with a 19 DV from range, multiple target EE and a swiss army knife of powers. All for a clean 100pts.

V Bishop (100) - Great 10 range, and also a 19 DV from range like Storm's. His saving grace is his multiple clicks of Outwit. I can't tell you how many time I've had someone focus all their attention on my Bishop, for them to finally hit him for 3 damage, only to AGAIN be saddled with his Outwit.

U Jakeem Thunder - A staple JSA piece, his 19 Defend, PC and perplex is a great starting point to build any team around.

I mean, the list goes on: Amanda Waller, SI Captain America, Patriot, War Machine, Luke Cage, and Kid freaking Quantum, Mr. Terrific freaking STEEL. My mind is Boggled that Goliath and Black Lightning made the list over ANY of those folks.

Actually, I was thinking almost the same thing as I was reading the article.

U Nick Fury is one of the BEST figures in the game for the points. Absolutely lethal, and made even better with the changes to S.H.I.E.L.D. team ability.

And while Goliath is a pretty good figure, he's far from the Top 3 of all time.

While insightful, this article should have featured a Top 10 list (and probably should have omitted "worst" Black figures section).

02/27/2009, 14:08

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Quote : Originally Posted by WakandaMan

The man makes a good point.

Well if Australian Aborigines count then I don't see why not. Spock may be a Vulcan, but he's also a white Vulcan, just as Tuvok is a black Vulcan.

But then I guess by that logic all Klingons would be considered black. Hmmm....

Well, yeah. I guess I'm not that familiar with the general Xanshi populace and their pigmentations.

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02/27/2009, 14:10

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Quote : Originally Posted by airdomin8

While insightful, this article should have featured a Top 10 list (and probably should have omitted "worst" Black figures section).

The problem is that there aren't that many black HeroClix figures out there, when compared to the others. So a "top 10" would cover about 20% of the available figures out there.

As for the "worst" figures, I saw no need to sugar coat it just because the article focuses on black history month. A "worst Avengers figures" list wouldn't have made anyone think twice, so readers shouldn't be concerned here either.

Again, I thank everyone for contributing to the talk-back here. I will never expect you all agree with me 100% (quite the opposite actually), but I always expect you to tell me why!

Feedback and constructive criticism is always appreciated!

-The Le

02/27/2009, 16:45

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Quote : Originally Posted by thele

The problem is that there aren't that many black HeroClix figures out there, when compared to the others. So a "top 10" would cover about 20% of the available figures out there.

R HT Steel
E HT Steel
V HT Steel
R OR Steel
E OR Steel
V OR Steel
E LY Steel
V AV Black Panther
R IC Black Panther
E IC Black Panther
V IC Black Panther
E MM Storm
V DR Storm
R UL Storm
E UL Storm
V UL Storm
R XP Storm
E XP Storm
V XP Storm
R CD Black Lightning
E CD Black Lightning
V CD Black Lightning
R LY Kid Quantum
E LY Kid Quantum
V LY Kid Quantum
U CD Crimson Avenger
U OR Jakeem Thunder
U MU Apocalypse
U XP Apocalypse
V AA Amanda Waller
V AA Black Manta
L AA Crispus Allen
R SI Captain America
R SI Goliath
V SI Cloak (& Dagger)
R SI Power Man (& Iron Fist)
U CR Black Adam
V MU Bishop
E JL Bronze Tiger
R AV Patriot
V AV Luke Cage
E AV Falcon
R OR Mister Miracle
E OR Mister Miracle
V OR Mister Miracle
R SV Night Thrasher
E SV Night Thrasher
V SV Night Thrasher
E IV Angstrom Levy
R SN Falcon
E SN Falcon
V SN Falcon
R SN Captain Marvel
E SN Photon
V SN Pulsar
U SN Charcoal
L SN Sam Wilson
L SN Monica Rambeau
L SN Snap Wilson
R CD Vixen
E CD Vixen
V CD Vixen
U CD Guardian
L CD Jefferson Pierce
R AW Thunderball
E AW Thunderball
V AW Thunderball
R AW War Machine
E AW War Machine
V AW War Machine
L AW Eliot Franklin
L AW James Rhodes
U IO Cyborg
R FF Power Man
E FF Power Man
V FF Cage
R LY Mr. Terrific
E LY Mr. Terrific
V LY Mr. Terrific
R MM Blade
E MM Blade
V MM Blade
R MM Cloak
E MM Cloak
V MM Cloak
R MM Bishop
E MM Bishop
V MM Bishop
L MM Tyrone Johnson
L MM Bishop of SEX
R UL Cyborg
E UL Cyborg
V UL Cyborg
R UL Black Adam
E UL Black Adam
V UL Black Adam
U UL Nu'bia
L UL Catwoman
R CM Calypso
E CM Calypso
V CM Calypso
L CM Calypso Ezili
R CJ Green Lantern
E CJ Green Lantern
V CJ Green Lantern
L CJ Green Lantern
U SN Nick Fury
R HT Black Manta
E HT Black Manta
V HT Black Manta
R IC Blade
E IC Blade
V IC Blade
L IC Blade
L IC Gabriel Jones
L IC Knuckles

Just saying...

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02/27/2009, 17:12

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Quote : Originally Posted by darius_dax1

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Just saying...

I very much wanted to do a top BEST, top OVERRATED, and top WORST. By taking 10 of each, that comes to 30 / 116... which comes to 26%.

Still, I'd like to see your choice of top 3 in each category. (Top 3 is much harder than top 10).

-The Le

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