Hey I like the Duos. the old WK already announced it a long time ago and why continue to complain about it now? With the new WK/Neca, I am sure that they will change something to improve the game and maybe Duo will be reduced to perhaps one or two, as it depends on who figures will be made. I for one can't wait for the Batmobile!! heh.

Your venue seems to be like a fun place.

- So, Power Man & Iron Fist just Charged 4 squares, used Exploit Weakness and a Heavy Object, and dealt 4 penetrating damage. Twice. How does that make you feel?

- It stings a bit, but luckily I had Cloak & Dagger on a rooftop, and there were 2 GL tanks in their range, so I dealt 18 penetrating damage. Twice.

- I know, I saw, after that Thor & Loki perplexed up their damage, and with the help of a rock managed to deal a total of 12 damage during their Duo Attack.

While Multi-Attack would help a few Duo cases, it would overpower the already good ones.

I wonder if you curbed the Multi-attack, so that they couldn't use the same power twice in one turn - would it be more balanced?

Hawk uses Super STrength, Dove follows up with CCE?
King Mind Controls, Queen follows up with a ranged attack?
Jack uses EE, Ten uses PB?

Well... there are strategies to adapt to your exam...

Oh, who am I kidding. Good examples. I haven't sat down and looked at it enough to see the likelihood of the examples you gave happening, but yeah, those are really nasty.

How about this as an idea: Duos can use their powers, but get a -1 to both attack and damage on the second attack. I know in most cases I'd rather be able to use my powers and have that penalty than the other way around.

I also like anonymouse's idea - fairly easy to remember so it shouldn't be too complicated.

Did this once against the Anti-monitor - Omegaed him into my starting zone and then had my whole team annihilate him in two turns. It was cool, but like you said, my opponent didn't think it was much fun.

yet you still posted.

my main problem isn't the dials or point cost...but the comic accuracy for a game based on comics. sure all of the duos seen have been seen in comics however some of them have only been seen once. if somebody teams up once or twice or even 10 times i dont think that calls for a duo heroclix.

I believe it is just -1 to damage on the second attack.

Okay, so when, in your opinion, do two characters qualify for duo status?

And what if the duo was being taken from a particular issue of a particular comic when they were teamed up and we already have solo versions of the characters? Say maybe a Thing/Hulk duo from "The Big Change"?

And as far as comic accuracy, there are numerous scenarios that I could draw up involving Lian Harper landing the knockout punch on Superman, the Silver Surfer, Thanos, and Fin Fang Foom (amongst others) that go outside of those bounds, so that is the last refuge of the desperate, I think. It is a game, not a comic.
Accept that more expensive figures are generally more powerful, and that Superman will usually not have to worry about getting embarassed by some random bystander.

No conceivable change to the Duo mechanic will lead to me approving of most of them. The mechanic should be reserved for characters who are physically bound together. It's a marketing gimmick, trying to appeal to some people who don't see most of them as three-legged race pieces most of them are.

A properly designed pair of characters, with Traits or Special Powers that given bonuses for them being on the same team will always be superior to the two of them bound on a single dial, where they can't position themselves independently of each other, and instead present a single target, taking damage from the same attack, unable to be carried into position or out of danger by flying teammates.

I'm a comics fan -- I'm only here because of the source material, the heroes, villains and their stories. So, on one level I understand the conceptual appeal of seeing these pairings, but quickly realized they're bound to be a disappointment to me, even if they're tweaked into something fairly playable via more careful dial design and/or a change to the Duo mechanic. So, all I'm left with is a potentially cool sculpt and some SPs that are actually all the more disappointing when they're good and appropriate, because it's so easy to imagine them properly applied to individual figures.

That hasn't been the case for awhile now. Both ends of a double base must be within the figure's speed value.

A duo figure can be TK'd. I'm fairly positive that I've replied to one of your posts about this before, in fact.

Duo Figures are good, but to me, you seem to get better results using the two figures SEPARATELY. For example, Lamp post batman and Robin works MUCH better than the Batman and Robin fig. Also, I think the Iron Fist fig is better than the entire Power Man Iron Fist duo. But they are useful for figs that really both couldn't do well on their own, Devil Dino and whatever guy, and Cap and Bucky...

My opinion....

Um...T&L can do that without Duo Attack becoming Multi-Attack. Heck, they're dealing 13 damage on their first click with that arrangement.

(Unless you meant 12 penetrating damage on their sole click with both "Might and Mischief" and "Brawn and Brains.")

IMO most duos are just collectables for the game.

Most do not get played at my venue.
I only see on rare occasion either DD&MB or PM/IF played and that's it.
Played against Cloak&Dagger once in a friendly game.

PM/IF is a great fig though.

Thor/Loki is simply a beast! We did a 4-way 1000 point match, and if it wouldn't have been for a 3-on-1 at the end (when the other players who were on the other side of the map doing their own thing realized that Thor/Loki was still at full strength), he would have taken down at least 3-4 times his points in figures.