The only issue I have with a comment like this (and there are many so don't take it personal) is for a lot of players characters matter.

For me, Pyro isn't an option on a team that was 75 points short if I was considering Diamondback. They don't run in the same circles - mutant villain and Captain America's squeeze. There is no team-up I will field that cross over like that.

I also don't think all 70 to 75 point figures should be interchangeable.

Diamondback has a role to play on someone's team who chooses her and when someone lists 3 or 4 figures that are "better options" it really isn't much of a point for some players because on a Marvel Fem-Force Pyro, U Batman, SR Mysterio, Abin Sur, Hawkgirl, etc aren't even in consideration for many players.

Now I freely admit there are some players who do look at cost and simply see if she takes the spot from Bencrawler, for example - but the overall comment of X is better sounds like an attempt to be factual rather than the personal choice it is.

Diamondback is highly mobile. She is so expensive because they gave her 6 clicks of running shot. That is A LOT.

I think her role on a Serpent Society team will be important. A lot of SS characters are 0 range and she may really shine when supported by them.

Overall she has a 9 swing which is acceptable. Teamed with SHIELD pieces she could up the range and / or damage. 18 D at range is solid. Base her and she doesn't lose much - still able to Incap and her defense will spike if she gets hit in close.

Stellar figure? I don't think so. I think she is a lot better than Maria Hill, though...

I hope they are keeping all the really good pieces under wraps.

Nothing but meh. For that cost she needs to be doing a whole lot more than harassment. Something as simple as bumping the placement of her Psyblast up to the front of her dial would have helped a lot not to mention ditching Incap which has far too bloated a cost.

Wow, her mobility is pretty insane. SIX clicks of running shot! You hit me for 4, I take the 4 squares knockback, out of your other figures' range, then I hit you back for 2, then skip around a corner, and push to do it again next turn.

I think the problem is more that she is 74 points and throws diamonds. Not a good preview here IMO.

Characters matter to me, too.
I was looking forward to Element Lad as much as any character from AA. I have him in one of my modern age play boxes right now, and he will move in to my all-time keeper boxes when he retires.

But I never play him. He's a terrible waste of points.

But if characters are all that matter, then why did you list all of those characters for comparison a few posts back?
Who cares is Grey Gargoyle is terrible if all that matters is that he is Grey Gargoyle?

Because that isn't all that matters.

Points are about what is on the dial, not what is on the base. The dial should reflect the character, and the cost should reflect the dial.

The dial might be a good reflection of Diamondback. I am not commenting on that. But I do know that when I look at that cost that I do not see a good reflection of that dial.

Sometimes something goes wrong. Sometimes the dial isn't a good reflection of the character. Sometimes the cost isn't a good reflection of the dial. Sometimes neither the dial nor the cost are very good. Hey, it happens. Wizkids isn't perfect.

But it doesn't mean that they shouldn't continue to try and do better.

If the Falcon costs 74 points*, I hope that I get more for my points than what everyone waiting for Diamondback got.

Not asking for broken. I don't want broken. I just want "worth it".









* Please do not let me down, Wizkids. I need my Falcon.

I like it! People need to chill out and think about what she actually does powerwise. This fits representation fits her perfectly...

i would have liked them to drop her damage down to 1 on her EE clicks, but then give her CCE on those same clicks.

I don't get all the hate either.... full dial of move and attack will cost you. Sure, you may not play her that much outside a sealed event, but lets face it, if the world was gonna end, I doubt Diamondback was on your top ten list of heroes to call in the first place.

This is the best post i've read in a long time anywhere on the internet for anything.

Finally! Yes! I'm psyched. Now I can reenact Streets of Poison! LOL..

I like her and will play her.
Very mobile

If she lost a few clicks of RS and her point cost was closer to 60, I don't think people would be as disappointed. I think 74 points is accurate for what her dial has, but she's not a giant-killer with that 2 damage. I still think she only looks so "bad" when compared to other 70-80 point-ish characters that are more specific in their roles.

I would be very happy if characters like Diamondback started a new "anti-creep" trend in stats/pricing.

First, awesome post. Thank you.

This is the only point I differ with. I think that the point cost for her is about where that dial should be. If anything, I think she is slightly too good to be accurate. If WK didn't have a full dial RS and dropped another power or two to get her points down to around 60, I would be a lot happier with her. But, she is what she is, I am happy we have her, and happy that I can see her filling a specific tactical use on a team.

She's may not be a perfect Diamondback, but I think she is very playable, and very far from garbage. Grey Gargoyle, on the otherhand...

Going to play her ................. After I repaint a Manhunter Sculpt -- Chop off the Bo-Stick and replace with a Diamond --- and put it on her dial !

I WILL!!! lol. Thanks!!! It will be a hell of alot better!!! Good dial.

So you don't play any figures of 4 range or less that cost 74 or more points, huh?