[quote=Telimtor;5796726]If it was up to me, there would be no more cards, but more object, i personally think this is the way to go.

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I keep seeing and keep hearing people complain about ATAs but objects are far more irritating to me. I realized that Bullseye with T-bolted to Ultimate Avengers or another ATA is ridiculously good but I attribute that more to Bullseye being undercosted than to problems with the ATAs. Some of the new objects are just too good and make teams obviously unbalanced.

A whole set shouldn't be retired just because there's some figures that need to be removed from the metagame. Outright banning figures from modern age should never be considered a fix to a stale/unwanted metagame. Hopefully the abundance of the Superman Ally TA in the upcoming set will discourage the use of NC. Perhaps we will be lucky enough to get a map or object or maybe even a figure that shuts down the NC killbox.

What is all speculation? NECA/Wizkids has done retirement twice in two years at the same exact time both years and in the same exact way. Go back two years worth of Heroclix time, draw a line. Everything before the line is Golden, everything after is Modern. They even have an official document they made that says they are going to do the same thing in the future. The only thing that is speculation is whether or not they do it May 1st, since the Comprehensive Tournament Rules just say "spring time."

So banning figures is bad, but creating silver bullet figures/elements designed to counter one specific strategy is good? I wouldn't agree with that at all.

And I don't think they should retire sets because of one or two figures, or that they should just ban one or two figures. I think they should establish a hard retirement schedule and stick to it. They seem to have done that.

I only made a comment about Metron because he dominates the meta right now and I really don't see any valid reasons not to retire AA as someone mentioned. A con of keeping AA is that Metron continues to dominate the meta.

Based on what is currently Modern Age legal and not likely to be retired by next summer, Dirk Anger, Maelstrom and Squirrel Girl are my picks for the Top 16. Maelstrom alone would give Superman (150) and Black Adam (100) a run for their money.

I was surprised that a Doppelganger/Metron/Nurse team didn't make it into the Top 16. Doppie and Nurse should return next year, unless they hit the "home" early.

I think this question would be appropriate here: When is the next "high-level" tournament? To me, it looks like Origins, unless they either sponsor some independent Tournament Organizer (ie, Clixathon, Clixmania, Wondercon) or actually go to other comic/gaming conventions (ie, Dragoncon, WizardWorlds, regional cons). So, unless there will be something "major" within the time period of now and when they announce the next retirement (next spring/summer), this is almost a moot discussion until then, because like Jarimy said, all the tournaments are locally run, so the formats are at the venue's discretion.

I, for one, hope there will be some "major" tournament in the near future where we can attend and play some high-level clix.

What? Someone just said "There is a short lifespane of Modern Age which stinks" or something - which isn't true at all they haven't changed anything yet. All the talk that they might change things and retire thru WOS is speculation is what I was saying. So that dude is saying Modern Age is shortened and it's not a good thing, but it hasn't even happened, and probably wont.

Man, it's like you read my mind. Except that all the spelling was correct.

The issue right now is that stealth is only strong with move and attack. Before stealth was annoying but you knew the threat was stationary and wasn't going to move around to much. Now that is no longer true. Mobile stealth busting figures are needed. Does it need to be in the form of team abilities? I think not. I think stealth busting should come at a price. Right now the cost of admission for stealth busting is low. There has to be some disadvantages to a team. I think risk needs to be put back into the meta.

Ok I think someone who is skilled can make Lobo very competive.

I feel the same way. I'm not really gonna talk about teams or figures until they either a) announce an official tournament happening before next spring, or b) announce the new Modern and Golden Age standards.

I wasn't sure what you were saying was all speculation. that stuff you mention is indeed speculation.

I'll throw and actual team into the mix here (and yes I will be running this if I by some fluke make it to Gencon)

2x GSX Pestilence
GSX Storm
Crimson gem
Orange lantern

Orange Lantern will likely be retired.

Between this and the 3 or more sets that may be released by gen-con, I don't think planning for gen-con is possible right now.

I'd wait until may to really start planning, that's plenty of time to plan and playtest.

Have you ever retired a Modern age object by mistake?

I understand the Pestilence combo. Why GSX Storm?