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OK, we have some confusion at my venue, so tell me if this sounds correct to the intent;
The batcave is a resource dial, who poops out an Alfred & Batcomputer. So, coming from a game effect, Alfred & batcomputer don't break theme teams, similar to Beast Boy's morphing & Spidey's costume changes, it just means they can't be given the theme team rerolls. Does that sound in any way right? Cause I thought the idea with resources is anyone could play them without breaking theme.
The Batcomputer and Alfred break theme. They are characters added to your force at the time of construction and they do not have keywords.
If you play a Batcave, you will always break your keyword theme.
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Question form post 1, "If defense dial is showing hss and batcave is assigned to everyone on the team, would opponent only be able to hss attack the batcave or would hss be countered all together?"
Answer from post 2, "2) They could still use to Target Alfred, Computer, Wall, or to just move and not target anything. "
Now here is my follow-up question, is there any reasons the Batcave could not be assigned to the Batcomputer and/or Alfred thus protecting Batcomputer from the hypersonic attack?
The Batcave's rules specifically say that it cannot be assigned to the computer or Alfred.
Oops, I missed that. Seems silly to me that the Batcave can give benefits to characters not near it, but cannot give the same benefits to characters that are a part of its mechanics.
If the Batcave is a resource how is it A} a character and B}can have the UB, as the rules state that you can only have 1 resource on a team? (I know, consistency and clarity are obviously considered by some as the hobgoblins of small minds.}
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If the Batcave is a resource how is it A} a character and B}can have the UB, as the rules state that you can only have 1 resource on a team? (I know, consistency and clarity are obviously considered by some as the hobgoblins of small minds.}
The Batcave itself allows you to assign the utility belt to one character for free. No other resource currently allows you to have two resource on your team at the same time.
1/ Can Alfred use suipport on the Computer ? Can they be considered adjacent ?
2/ If I don't play Alfred and Computer, the Batcave is still placed in my starting area right ? Does it occupy those square same as a character or can I "climb" on it ? Sound silly, I know, but ressources are neither objects nor characters and the text of the Batcave does say : "All squares occupy by the Batcave are considered to be clear terrain." If Akfred & Computer are here they both occupy those squares so no problem; but if they're not, does the Batcave (as a ressource alone) is considered to be occupying those squares in such a way than nothing else can, like a character ? Does it block LOF ? How does it interact with the battlefield when played only as a ressource ?
3/ Really an english issue (it's not my first language and the text is... unclear to me) : How do the defense dial SPs work exactly ? Is the combat value modified when 1/ an opposing character target one of my character assigned to the Batcave ? 2/ one of my character with Batcave assigned targets an opposing character ? 3/ both ? And does the modifier only apply to the opposing character that targets/is targetted, or to all opposing characters ?
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1/ Can Alfred use suipport on the Computer ? Can they be considered adjacent ?
2/ If I don't play Alfred and Computer, the Batcave is still placed in my starting area right ? Does it occupy those square same as a character or can I "climb" on it ? Sound silly, I know, but ressources are neither objects nor characters and the text of the Batcave does say : "All squares occupy by the Batcave are considered to be clear terrain." If Akfred & Computer are here they both occupy those squares so no problem; but if they're not, does the Batcave (as a ressource alone) is considered to be occupying those squares in such a way than nothing else can, like a character ? Does it block LOF ? How does it interact with the battlefield when played only as a ressource ?
3/ Really an english issue (it's not my first language and the text is... unclear to me) : How do the defense dial SPs work exactly ? Is the combat value modified when 1/ an opposing character target one of my character assigned to the Batcave ? 2/ one of my character with Batcave assigned targets an opposing character ? 3/ both ? And does the modifier only apply to the opposing character that targets/is targetted, or to all opposing characters ?
1. I am pretty sure you would have to use Alfred's special power to create a separate Alfred to heal the computer. The two are considered to occupy the same space, so they would not be adjacent.
2. You have to add the Batcomputer and Batcomputer with Alfred. The Batcave card says the Batcomputer is added to your force. To do what you are wanting to do, it would need to say 'may be added'.
3. Modifiers from the defensive dial apply when an opposing character targets a character assigned the Batcave. Should not, even a power like Outwit would activate the modifiers since it targets. The modifiers would only apply to the character that did the targeting.
2. You have to add the Batcomputer and Batcomputer with Alfred. The Batcave card says the Batcomputer is added to your force. To do what you are wanting to do, it would need to say 'may be added'.
Oh ! Yes, I've missed that. My bad
Thanks for the answers !
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If the Bat Computer is KO'ed before the rest of your force is, does it just lose its attack dial, or is completely removed and you can no longer use the resource dials and the ub?
If the Bat Computer is KO'ed before the rest of your force is, does it just lose its attack dial, or is completely removed and you can no longer use the resource dials and the ub?
For two reasons, I would rule the resource remains.
1. When Alfred is KOed, the Batcomputer is not removed, therefore when the computer is KOed the cave also remains.
2. The Batcave is not a character but since its card specifically says that you place it in your starting zone, I would say after KOing the computer, the cave remains.
When The Batcave is defeated, remove the resource from the game.
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