Not saying there isn't something odd up with Kontrol (because I have no idea there )

Yes, I'm neutral. No, I'm not the SK (if there even IS one since there was only one kill last night) since I targeted Mags and he's safe and sound. Good enough for you?

D2 Rough Tally

Grin (4): gFish, CaptHulk, Velius, Mal

With 16 active players, 9 is needed for a majority.

Got nothing to add at the moment, but wish it to be known that I am here and up to date on the going ons.

Should I add pressure to Kontrol?

vote:kontrol to make it 5

Brutal death scene....way to take the Disney out of frozen, Darqules.

(says the guy who had zombie Disney Princesses attacking Pooh Bear)

Also, detest weekend phases....

Gfish started the train, so it depends if it Grinner's answer satisfied him. But vague neutral claiming isn't often all that reassuring.

wait....Grinner, so you are netural and not a SKer. Alt win or win with either side?

Also, would you targeting Magnito have ANYTHING to do with his results on Kontrol?

Well, one train of thought at a time. Didn't want to pull off Grinner without good reason.

I will: vote:rorschach

If you're satisfied with Grinner's answer, I suggest you follow suit. If not, then I'll follow your lead.

I also know that something weird is up with kontrol.

17 players, likely 4 scum, 1 SK, 1-3 neutrals and the rest town. One neutral dead, Grinner's claim is tenuous but not totally out of the realm of possibility.

I should never play Mafia after a friday night of 2 holiday parties and a lot of christmas cheer...

I am voting Kontrol based on Magnito's post and if Grinner is a neutral, it isn't a bad thing. We should move on.

UNLESS....grinner comes on and says "no, what i did to Magnito would mess up his results" or Magnito says what he has on Kontrol or something...

Grinner...why alignment claim and not character claim?

I agree with the last bit. This is a Frozen mafia, name claims should be strong. Not a lot of obvious fakeclaims out there to use compared to other games.

UGH. I hate days like this because we are going to give the mafia a roadmap to killing us off.

vote kontrol

pressure vote.

I don't think Ouch was the SK, so that means other neutrals are even more suspicious.

Who said results? I never said I was an info gatherer. Just that I targeted control and something odd happened. If Grinner is owning up to the odd effect than I see no reason to suspect kontrol of anything.