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12/11/2004, 14:58

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Quote : Originally Posted by Bahamut

Well Zero Grav and Gorillas don't mix, so you'd have to take an almost entirely different approach if you wanted to try that, I was just making a suggestion for you to try it out.
Enraged works better with Gorillas, but Spears work better without them [coupled with Zero Grav].
Choose your demons.

Yeah, you're right in that case. I'll go with the Battle Ox's. They're not to bad, with a nice, solid 1700 attack. Besides, like fjrv8 and I said, three trampling Gorillas wouldn't hurt at all...:devious:

Quote : Originally Posted by TDK89

Yeah I suppose so. It is a better topdeck. [2] Blade knights would be a bit much.

can u bump thread plz??

DDA a better topdeck?? I would think Blade would be...cause when you topdeck it, it'll have 2000 attack. Well, it depends on the situation that you are in I guess. Meh, they're both awesome cards, I'll test them.

Thanks again guys. I'll bump both of your decks....

--McW--

12/11/2004, 15:04

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As anyone else ever noticed that when you see a thread with the words Hacking Hunters in it people swarm to it? Must be the fancy link oh well. This deck still looks good man, whenever I see this thing I still see nothing wrong with it. 9/10

I know I don't give much insight, but could you still take a look at my deck?

BTW: how the heck do you make those weird squiggles anyway?

12/11/2004, 15:15

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Thanks for the comments RedeyesKnight. I'll PM you where to go to find the cool characters.

Oh yeah, I'll be glad to r/f your deck. At least you posted and gave comments :).

--McW--

12/11/2004, 19:27

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I don't know why you want me to help you. Plus I hate posting in threads that have more than a three pages to them, two is just pushing it for my taste. But over five! I mean come on, that's just insane.

Ok, the only thing I really would say is Blade Knight < DD Assailant mostly becuase removal.

12/11/2004, 20:18

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Okay, thanks Tkwiget. I'm still testing between Blade Knights and D.D. Assailants. We'll see....

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12/12/2004, 07:07

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This is beatdown, ja? Well... for the most part it looks pretty good. Due to some personal preferences though, I would probably go with a Mobius instead of Blowback, because it's quicker and the attack, though only 100 higher, still provides for that extra "Shabam!".

Now for the Blade Knight/Different Dimension Assailant thing... I'd take them both out for the Enraged Battle Ox', but that's just me going for more of the Beastdown type thing. And if not those 2, then the Kycoos, they are without a doubt, Chaos neutering monsters.

I also dislike the Scientist with a passion... my personal preference is Cyber Jar, but that's because I like drawing action, field control, and swarmage. Now for the spell cards... I think running two of both Creature Swap and Nobleman of Crossout is just asking for trouble. That would be the crappiest top decking I would ever see LOL. Try to minimize it by getting rid of one of each.

Maybe throw in a bit more techage... I've always favored 2 C.E.Devices just for field control, and other then that your traps look very adequete. Honestly, I can't think of any more changes besides that. Most of my decks run at 45 cards, but I know that alot of people think it's too slow to run at that many, so I wont suggest adding any more cards. So... lookin good, I give this deck a rating of 8.8/10.

The rating is slightly lower then what it would be, because I'm not fond of hybrids... which this looks like... since you have the potential to go Beastdown but instead you have removal in there as well and even though I don't get what the Painful Choice is for... I decided not to touch it. So... good job dude, and thanks for fixing/rating my deck.

12/12/2004, 08:51

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Quote : Originally Posted by DesmockVelcor

Thanks a lot dude! Now I'll get into some explanations...

Beginning with your preference of Mobius over Blowback, indeed Mobius is quicker, stronger, and has a guranteed effect. First of all, I prefer Blowback because of the fact that he has one of the most versatile effects in the game. Having the ability to destroy any card on the field is simply amazing. Also, I have surprisingly good luck with coin flipping...

Since I am not going for a Beastdown themed deck, the Enraged Battle Ox's are side-decked to use for trample in the case that my opponent runs a lot of Scapegoats or Sprit Reapers. As for the Kycoo's, I'm not going for a Hybrid Beatdown/Control, but rather a Aggro Beatdown. Both Enraged Battle Ox and Kycoo are used mainly against decks that contain certain cards; not the majority of the cards that are in the game (i.e. Tribe, DDWL, and Breaker help you against almost all decks). So, I try to run cards in the main-deck that counter all decks/cards, not just certain ones.

Cyber Jar is a very good card, that can gain you the the advantage easilly, particularlly in a beatdown like mine. But, it can also set you up for downfall. I prefer Fiber Jar over Cyber, just because you normally gain the advantage every time you flip him. Scientist is probably one of the best cards in the game, simply because of the fact that at a cost of 1000 Life Points you can pull out a fusion that can counter nearly any card. That is the only reason for Scientist's popularity, but, it would be foolish to not run him, because he helps out in any situation.

Two Creature Swaps and two NoC's does topdeck like $h!t, but, I try not to put myself in a situation for topdecking. In other words, I don't play all my cards out from the start. By the way, this is one of the reasons I want to main-deck Blade's/DDA's, because they're awesome topdecks.

I like techage, but I prefer Sakuretsu Armors over CED's. Both are good topdecks, but since CED just stalls, I don't like it much. This is in the Advanced Format though, I loved CED's before the bans.

As I said before, it's not a Hyrid. It's an Aggro Beatdown. Everytime I take that off of the deck info at the top someone always assumes that it's a Hybird...no offense to you man...just in general XD! Oh yeah, Choice is good to get cards out for a certain situation, deck thinning, another good drawing card, and other reasons too. Did you not use it in your deck? I would try to fit it in, because with some strategic thinking it works pretty d@mn good....

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12/12/2004, 15:48

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i would add airknight for blowback.

other than that, you have a really solid beat down 9.2/10

12/12/2004, 16:50

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-2 Blade
-3 Slate

Seriously, if Blade Knight becomes useful, you've lost...

+3 D.D. Assassin
+1 Fiber Jar [Morphing Jar if you can afford it]
+1 Initiate Troops

Very godly...

Here is why D.D. Assassin is the best beatdown monster:

IT CAN KILL ANYTHING IN THE GAME THAT ISN'T IN DEFENSE MODE AND HAS OVER 1650 DEF OR A SPIRIT REAPER.

It is a superior Beatdown monster than even Berserk Gorilla, simply because it can permanently and instantly eliminate a threat.

Otherwise, very nice job...

12/12/2004, 17:23

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uranustinx-Thanks man! I might do that, we'll see.

Lafiel_MageX-Blade is very useful dude!!! SexXy topdeck, and is a great card overall. But, yes, I guess I chose too soon, the DDA's will go back in now. I'm definately keeping the Slates though. I used to run Fiber in the main deck, and he pwned, but I don't have room for him now :(. Thanks!

Anyone else?

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12/12/2004, 18:20

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From experience, when you start topdecking, you're already losing.

In ADV format, Hand Advantage is even more important, because there are no longer g0d topdecks like Raigeki or Chaos Emperor Dragon to save you in case you're about to die.

Why play a card that's only useful when losing?

12/13/2004, 11:50

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Quote : Originally Posted by Lafiel_MageX

Indeed, when you start topdecking you are losing. I see what your point is now. I would rather draw DDA to kill there BLS instead of Blade, just to get whacked in the next turn....and beyond that if I continue to topedeck horribly.

Thanks,
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12/13/2004, 12:17

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Quote : Originally Posted by DesmockVelcor

Dude... Blowback<Mobius???!! Wow!! Mobius is a one time thing and unless he's back in the hand, he's only good one. I say stick with blowback. It's removal will certainly be more handy than Mobius

12/13/2004, 14:15

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Quote : Originally Posted by ThaDragonKing89

Dude... Blowback<Mobius???!! Wow!! Mobius is a one time thing and unless he's back in the hand, he's only good one. I say stick with blowback. It's removal will certainly be more handy than Mobius

Thanks again for your input TDK. I do prefer Blowback over Mobius, so I'll stick with him.

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12/14/2004, 02:07

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Anyone else care to leave a rating or input?

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