I took a brief overview of his army ...

it's ...

2x Republic Balacs - 96
2x DF Donars - 104
DF Maxim - 31
DF Schmitt - 94
2x DF Mobile HQ - 52
SC Crow - 31

I believe the rest were DF trikes ... not sure, but I'm guessing on a whim ...

Nothing like instant service.

Elite is more instant than I am ;)

Besides ... I'm going off memory

Sorry Will but i am working on a big paper and any distraction is welcome at the moment.

It is very similiar to what i played at my nationals.

sorry for asking, but what is TAC drop?

It is ussualy the 19 point Towed Auto Cannon of the SSW in a BR Sprint 34 points.

The way I usually see the TACs dropped is from a SSw J37 ordinance truck. If things look rough for them (dropping AnP infantry on them) the J37 scoops them back up and moves them to safety. Having wheeled movement, they are also repaired by the J37.

Its gotten so common, that transports are becoming targets of choice, and the Big Mech can wait.

hmmm yes ... forgot how J37s can repair TACs ...

I usually go with Hazen's, SS TAC, and SS laser team for maximum options ... for swordsworn pure of course.

Still ... nothing beats the DF guila suits, DF trikes, and DF ATVs for their point cost of 14.

INTERESTING....

I don't think any of the envoys had any agenda's with regards to any players playing. I know this since I was one of the envoy's and spent a good 3 days talking with the other 4 guys who helped run the event; I would be hard pressed to state any comment made by any of them which would be considered negative or biased toward/against any player.

Every envoy who was assigned to nationals knew someone who was playing in the Nationals event (some of us knew many people). We made a 110% effort to do the following:

1. Make No calls for the person/persons who we knew personally or had any relationships with/to, if we saw someone we knew with their hand raised, we called another envoy over to make the call.

2. Made an effort to avoid any discussions about the matches with people we knew while the matches were going on.

I don't think any of those envoy's have/had any personal ax to grind and as far as I can tell we don't'/did'nt have any agenda's except to make sure that everyone who played played fair and nicely. The only thing I got hot about myself was people who were obviously stalling/cheating/being donkeys to their opponents. I act the same way at my venue and thats my personal MW pet peeve.

As someone who didn't go to Nationals last year but heard an EARFUL from the 10+ players in my area who went/played I can truthfully say that the only comments made to me during the 2 days (outside of "how long do we have for lunch, when is lunch, do I have time to pee) were how much better this event was run vs last year and how much better the calls were being made.

And I an attest that none of the envoys had anything against/for etc... Corle. I didn't even know who Corle was until late in the day on day one, nor did I know who the winner of nationals last year was until someone pointed him out to me- so I'm pretty sure I did not have any bias against Corle or Noetists (sp).
Not to have it taken the wrong way but I really don't give a flying F about Corle, heck or any of the other players in the final 8 (meaning I don't know them from Adam and so they don't really make a whole hell of a lot of difference in my life one way or the other) Corle must have played a good game (since he won) and there should be no question that the games were played fair since Rain pretty much sat and watched him play 8 straight matches.

So before all you all go wanking off on the battlemasters who were watching the event, try to find something else to blame.

heck, maybe someone can start the insert name here thread played a "cheese" army.

I'm going to go on record as saying anyone who whines about the "unfair/impartial" battlemaster is cheese.

sheesh.

darlin13

btw, Nice to see you back Corle (I didnt even know you were gone.)

Corle, iyo, what would be the fix for Mechs to make them effective. Mind you, not just against VTOLs, but all tactics that reduce them to a laughable state in many cases. A return fire rule is it? Or reduce charging to primary speed? Move and shoot? Or something else?

fbf

It really depends on the infantry swarm. The army in its original incarnation was built to be an all purpose army and it has been successful against several infantry/arty concepts.

Well played infantry/arty concepts can defeat the army, so can other well played concepts. The thing that was most unique about Nick's army is that he had the opportunity (with whatever he encountered) to win... or at least a good chance. 50% or better... usually more like 80%. Nick's a better player than I am anyways :-) therefore, the army was more than likely to win.

Firstly I'd like to point out I played a minor adaptation of one of Kiserai's armies.

Secondly...that was a fun game...and would have been very different, had he been player one. Ugh. But as it was, it proved to me one thing:

I believe my army could handle Infantry Swarm better than Corle's...however, Corle's definitely handled big single mech as well, if not better, than mine. And he had the first strike option. And I was still hurt rather severely in situations where I was player two. It was...interesting. I tried to build an army that could handle being player two, and I still found it a major inconvienence.

Does anyone other than me really like being the guy who places reactionary terrain (2nd and last)?

-Nick

Definitely not me. In most of my matchups at nationals, I would have prefered to go second so I could place the first terrain. Granted, I didn't have a first strike army, and I didn't play against any first strike armies, so that's probably a big reason why.

Unless I need a specific terrain anywhere, I PREFER to place my terrain second.

Knowing my opponent's plan (when he places first terrain) is MORE important to me than knowing my own plan.

Nick's army does better vs Mechs (tank drop added option).
Corle's army does better vs transports (first strike).

As for me ... I still prefer my dual tank drop, artillery, infantry swarm, command, near faction pure army ;)