Timing is crucial. Before the ruling that line of fire was irrelevant, BoL could be acquired cheaply. Now it is one of the more expensive relics. I could see how someone could have fun speculating as to what will be the next "hit" and buying and selling accordingly, if those are the things they like to do.

Nope you brought it up in the thread. No one said anything about a gnool/knoll army until after you made the statement. Here is the link:http://www.mkrealms.com/forum/showth...=&pagenumber=8

You said knoll army. It was nto until after that the term was used. Either way even after a request the "weenie" 2 damag emax army was never posted.


kenntak: It is fun for me to attempt to speculate on what is going to be good after the dust has settled.

*sigh*..... there was a comment made... maybe not in that thread... because I know that the argument has bleeded to more than 1 thread.... perhaps it was somebody in PM... but I was not the first to make the Gnoll comment. Regardless.... what does it matter?... I could use Gnolls and probably get the same results speculated.

hmm, gnolls you know, take 5 clicks to die, and you can't kaboom them if they're split up, and maybe you play double-boom which might be a problem - but anyway, of all the cheese I've ever ever seen (and I even hate the word "cheese" because it's waaayyy to liberally applied, Kaboom has got to be the worst :p )

besides if someone like me plays a weenie army I include some anit-kaboom measures, I'd never play just all weenies :)

are you going to wizard world east byany chance? I'd love to play an army against your kaboom! :)

Nope but I will be at Origins and Gen Con both. WWE falls a little to early in the con season then what I prefer.

I made a statement back before 2.0 came out in which I said I would abuse everything WK puts out to its fullest. Kaboom just happens be one of the those abusive tactics. They keep putting out abusive stuff and I will keep abusing it to the max.

As far as what does it matter about the gnolls? It just sorta sums up things in one case.

Regarding kaboom, someone posted a rumor not too long ago that WK was contemplating changing Kaboom so that one could not purposely kill their figure to set off the blast. I don't know where they got this information from, and it may have been wishful thinking on their part. Anyway, besides the conquest LE's, does anyone know how many shockwave figures are left for use in restricted tournament play?

No clue but some one did a search and just came up with a few. best guess would be to look at MKD sets and Heros.

kaboom should be worded so that death by pushing, DT'ing, Surging does not set off the bow...would be a great fix

I think that K-bow is fine the way it is.

Why ... I don't think it needs to be fixed? It's a great tactic. In the hands of a skilled operator it can significantly damage an opponents army. Someone who is skilled in playing against it may be able to stop it or minimize it's damage. Just because it's powerful and has the potential to change the tide of a match I don't think it should be nerfed. No figure should be eliminated especially if it's sufficiently playtested by WK. I think one of the fun things about MK is the ability to compete to the max (but with maturity) even if it means taking advantage of superior firepower (uber relics/figures/combos).

Steve

it seems to me, in the hands of a good player right now, it's a gamebreaker. once DZ's and skellies are retired, it won't be quite as bad...

or if WK puts out the Relic I want - 30 points, allows you to destroy your own relic and 1 relic you choose from the opposing army...

The problem is a 1 for 1 like that is not balanced at all. Allowing someone to pack a 30pt relic that can detroy a 30+ relic is unblanced without some other things going on. Sacing the a figure of equal or greater value then the relic may be closer to balance.

but you might face an army with no relic at all, then you just wasted 30 points or so on the relic-destroyer...or, give it a +2 Attack, +2 Defense and make it 45 points...

well, whatever points balance it out, it's just a concept more than an exact recommendation :)

We're always gonna face some type of annoying play. I've developed many in my playtests.... some more annoying than K-bow. I anticipate that DR will introduce more frustrating adversaries.

Interesting ... now THAT would be a scary proposition. Talk about the ability to screw up your opponent....Yikes....

Steve