Mattie can't get as big as Nova unless you have a lot of characters in your row. It's too bad reservist wasn't available with Mattie because they would otherwise work very well together.

Not to mention Nova Not stunning back on def should come into play that often cause you want even Int, and on turn 7 (the first turn he would have to defend you should ASM who will let you pick who gets to attack anyway.

SF aren't the only decks that I know that prefer evens for initiative :) But yes, good good points to consider, thanks...

Joker, here are some concepts it may serve you well to understand.

Dusk is FAR from a waste of space. In my opinion shes the far and removed optimal drop on turn 2. Giving characters stat pump for free is never bad. And you think parker should be the only pump? Why not have 2 characters that will be around all game give stat pumps? Is there some fundemental dissadvantage to this im missing? If there is, be sure to let me know.

Balance of Power is still bad.


LabRat- For now, Ric is still the prime 3 drop. After the next PC we may need to reevaluate this, after the meta shapes up. I love the card draw, but immunity and a giant defense make me smile.

You really don't know what you're talking about, do you? My whole deck is based around Spidey 7, so it would be in my best interest to run recursion. And what tutor better fits the bill than Straight to the Grave? Black Cat does not 'slaughter' plot twists. I think the word you're looking for is 'delays the inevitable.' Sure, if she's unstunned on turn 5, she stops Beatdown. But in most scenarios, delaying a PT 2 turns won't make much of a difference. She does not delay the big PTs that much (recon, NTZ, TTG, etc.)

Dusk is the primary 2 drop, because she prevents Hounds Locks as well as makes your early game very defensive. The deck's purpose is to get to turn 7, so the best thing to do is have big DEF characters. Black Cat does nothing in comparison.

EDIT: Oh yeah, I think Mattie is much worse than both Iceman and Nova. I think we should be considering which one is better; Iceman or Nova. Right now, I really like Nova against CS because he will always stun Bastion if you have Cosmic in your hand. You don't have to worry about his low ATK on defense either, because from turn 6-8 you should be attacking first.

I do know what im talking about, I'm saying You still have to PULL it. Of course you have to run recursion cuz of freakin Amazing. You shouldn't rely on multiple cards just to hit sumthin that u can simply get outta costume change. Im not saying not to run it but just not 4 of, but costume change should stay and run 2 STTG. Black cat also stops hounds lock, they cant nasty suprise or anything EARLY GAME. Sents would need to rely on the discard a boliver or attk with hounds to stun her.

You fail to prove this.

By your logic, every card in the game is bad because you "have to PULL it".

And obv hounds lock hinges on nasty suprise. It's not like the combo is entirely dependant on characters. Wait... =\

You have to pull 2 cards to get one effect and waste precious slots to get one little combo that is not worth it when you can just run one card with the same effect. Wait.....

Indeed, let's back up. Please explain what worthless combo you are talking about. If you're talking about STTG, that card is BETTER than Costume Change for one simple reason...it gets you ANY character. You don't have to build your deck using bad cards like Alien Symbiote and Scarlet Spider to make your curve consistant. Would you rather run Signal Flare or Faces of Doom in Common Enemy? Probably Flare, because it gets ANY F4 character. Faces only gets you Dr. Doom, and that's if you already have Doomstadt.

Most CE decks run both, actually... though usually just 1 of Faces and 4 of Signal.

Straight to the Grave is indeed a better card since it has no other cost to play it. You can get any character you want. The downside is that you have to have some character recursion in your deck to make it useful, and, of course, you have to draw that recursion. However, in a Spider Friends deck, you're going to to be playing recursion anyway because it helps Spider-Man be the most effective.

Straight to the Grave could be a useful card for a Lost City build of Brotherhood, too, because they make use of recursion. Adding a couple of copies of Slaughter Swamp would help them get the recursion going as well as provide a second chance at using it.

My new list is as follows.


2 drops: 4x Dusk, 2x Jessica Drew
3 drops: 4x Ricochet, 2x F.N.S.M
4 drops: 4x S.M.P.P, 2x Wilo'
5 drops: 4x White Tiger, 2x S.M.A.S
6 drops: 4x Scarlet Spider, 1x Nova
7 drops: 4x T.A.S.M
8 drops: 2x C.S.M

4x Going my way
4x Straight to the Grave
3x Costume Change
3x Nice Try
3x Spider Tracer
3x No Man Escapes the Man-Hunters
2x Savage Beat Down

3x Avalon Space Station


Call me stubborn but I believe that Scarlet Spider is just that damn sick, my 5 drop takes out there 6, and my 6 pops there 5 I love it!

Personaly, i run Scarlet as my main 6 drop regardless of how many Spidermen i run. The ability to use every single one of the evasion characters you've had since turn 2 as an attack machine, even if you do need to team attack, is simply powerfull.

I will test STTG before i give it my full-on endorsement, but it looks like it'll be a great help.

Costume Change - you need to discard a Spider-Man/Black Cat/Scarlet Spider card to get another Spider-Man/Black Cat/Scarlet Spider card.

Straight to the Grave - no need to discard anything, put any character card into the KO'd pile, need a recursion effect to return that card to your hand

Straight to the Grave vs Costume Change
threshold cost: SttG's 2 vs CC's 3
additional costs: no discards for SttG, character card for CC with the same name as what you want to search for
misc stuff needed: SttG needs a recursion effect, CC requires none

I'd choose SttG over Costume Change for SF unless I'm running a clone deck and as long as we have little KO'd pile hate running around right now...

Yeah, his +2 to attack isn't to be sneezed at... I'm thinking of running a mix of him and Nova or Mattie, as they can be searched by SttG anyway :)

My deck edit

-2x Jessica Drew

+2x Scarlet spider successor

-2x Savage Beat Down
-3x No Man Escapes the Man-Hunters
-4x Straight to the Grave

+1x Spider Tracer
+1x Costume Change
+4x Twist of Fate
+3x System Faliure

My reason for dropping Straight to the Grave is I don't like revealing my Avalon Space Station so early(I don't like Reconstruction Program). Scarlet Spider Successor should be self explainatory. Finally to help shut down T.N.B and Avengers Reservist, the addition of System Faliure and one more Spider Tracer.