Ah I exaggerate. It's not that they won't or don't want me to watch. It's just the way our schedules work. Sunday is about the only day of the week that we all have off so by default that's when we do stuff together (and I don't care for college games) If we went to a game they'd be cool with it. But if I'm watching football on TV, then Erica's on WoW, and Kelly will be needling us both to go out and do something.

Of course I could make a deal with the devil to get to watch Pro Football again! All I'd have to do would be to give up an enviable "marriage", be broke and live with my parents. What a deal!

(I had to get back on topic somehow )

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I can't say those are the kind of numbers I personally hoped it would drop by, but 27,000 isn't a number I can sneeze at, either. If it drops by even half that again for March...

As a bonus, it raises my hopes for mohawks statement being true.

You're right, it's not a good looking drop. If the book is going to keep dropping then this initial drop is a pretty nasty first blow. I don't think it'll be clear for at least eight months to a year how badly the title has been hurt by OMD. The other thing to consider is that these are sales for ASM three times a month. Comparing that to the previous sales of three different Spider titles during a month is one way Marvel might choose to look at the book. On the one hand, sales for ASM are down by a good amount. On the other hand, over all they're still selling more Spidey comics a month than they did before BND when there were three different titles. I suspect that's mainly because of people who viewed ASM as the main book and have just stuck with it during the increase in issues, and other people who are just completists. It'll take a while to see if people are going to stick with the book. Over all, I'd say the numbers are great for almost any other book, but are rather disappointing for the company's flagship character who's coming off a major storyline.

Eh, we'll see. Even in the sales were through the roof I still can't imagine supporting the book until Spidey resembles the character I love.

I, too, stopped reading ASM after OMD. That story was a total slap in the face of long time fans and the character. I still am reading (and enjoying) USM, but reading only half of the Spidey I used to is starting to wane my interest in other books .

Interesting post script to this thread: I went into my local comic book store today (wed) at 3:30pm for new comics and while I was picking out my titles I noticed my store had 1 (yes ONE) copy of this week's Amazing Spider-man on the shelf. I've noticed they've been slashing their order every week, but wow. Possibly they got shorted, but I'm kinda thinking they didn't. We'll see in the next few weeks, I suppose, but a part of me was shocked to see such a small Spidey presence on the shelf. The other part of me was not surprised, of course.

Spidey got the shaft, but Spider-Ham lives on!

In the most recent amazing, MJ seems to have her memory. I wonder what that will lead to? I am hoping this was all a dream, some lucid daydream peter had when aunt may got shot... sort of like he was in shock or something.

Spidey making deals with the devil, Iron Man becoming a grad a jerk, killing Cap because he's no longer relavent....I think Marvel has done a good job ruining a great many of it's heros.

I'm down to just Thor and Nova for Marvel. Largely because they don't have anything to do with the rest of Marvel.

I can only hope this tanks as badly as the Clone Saga, Marvel sales go in the toliet, and they have to undo the whole mess.

Like you said, it's more money in your wallet.

this is why my Marvel Comic Collection ends when Cap America get killed.

Civil War begin with a awesome plot, but it end not good. but at least was a fine event with a great idea (and don't was only about about X-Men. ).


But really. the dead of the Captain America is a nice break point to end your Marvel collection.

and maybe Infinite Crisis can be a good break point to end your DC Collection.

This don't mean that there is excelent series outside the mainstream like "Justice" by Alex Ross and others.

A look at April sales shows ASM 557 down to 77,000. That means that BND is officially a train wreck, right?

I'll keep imagining the first issue in which they fix the whole BND thing there's gonna be a big "Sorry about that, guys" message at the end of it.

This came to mind last night...

http://www.hcrealms.com/gallery/show...o=5566&cat=500

The sad thing is that people at Marvel still see that "over 100 000 copies sold" when they look at BND. And that's only because people buy the first of something, partly because it can be something really good, or because it's a "legendary" book showing something "surprising". And Marvel is probably going to keep on coming with new twists as long as people keep buying the first issue after a twist.

Personally I'm hoping that BND will soon come to an end, probably in a big event to boost sales.

Joey Q, you made a BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD move.

I've got every Spidey book since the late 60's. And I've been disenchanted since "The Other" storyline and introduction of organic web-shooters. Absolutely horrible idea. About ruined the character for me. Worst thing about the films, and it bled into the books.

I was thinking BND would be a great way to get Spidey back to the Pre-Other arc, now I'm not so sure.

BND & Quesada make me long for the Spider-Man stories of the 90's.

Where's Ben Reilly?

I won't sit here and say that I am a long running Spidey fan because, in all honesty, my collection bounces around a lot when it comes to Spider-Man. I have long runs here and there, but often a new writer threw me until he hit his groove. Then I would jump back in and continue to enjoy the ride. I CAN say though that I severly doubt that I will buy into Joey Q's Spidey at all. I am just waiting for him to get the boot and the new EiC to say that this was a dream he had one night after Aunt May died, ala The Newhart Show.

My biggest problem with the whole thing is that they have basically pulled Peter out of the 616 universe and started a new one just for him. That is fine, more power to you and hopefully the storytelling is good. However when you try to force feed me that this IS 616 and that everything else in the last twenty years or more never happened, then most people are going to bawk at that. If Spidey is happy-go-lucky and the last twenty years never happened then who am I following in New Avengers, Avengers/Invaders, Secret Invasion, and so on?

If that is the Spidey Joey Q wants to write and wants to publish then I have no problem with it. Make a new line like Ultimate that is 60's Marvel and start all that. Don't try to tell me that characters that I have loved (Venom, Carnage, Black Cat, etc.) have never met Spider-Man but continue to use them. If Venom was Spider-Man's black costume in Secret War, and Venom begot Carnage then how can you continue to use them without re-writing them completely? Spider-Man in the last twenty years never happened? Then take Venom and Osbourne out of the Thunderbolts. Are these things that the EiC even thought of before tearing it all apart? It will fail, it will fold, we will win, and I might pick up another issue of Spider-Man again. It will just take some time, and I for one will not be buying it until that time comes.

That right there is the reason i think that in a few months, Mephisto is going to reappear and say "well Peter, this is what happens if you do this deal, you wanna keep it up?" and he'll go "OH MAN! That was terrible! NO NO NO I don't want to, you go back to hell!" and status quo returns.