seriously vet icons is way better than superman prime

I dont think you have taken a good look at Prime! For this argument we will give Superman First strike and nobody makes Impervious rolls. Primes Invincible SP means he can give up first strike and only take one damage! He will still have HS so he can fly over and hit for 4 and after 2 gets through Superman is on his last HS click. Since Prime is Indomitable and will attack again Superman will have to push off of it, leaving him 0 move and attack options. So after reducers Prime will be on his Charge Penetrating Flurry click and when this is combined with Indomitable he is guarantied the next attack. Two shots of penetrating Flurry take the last 8 clicks Superman has and gives Prime the win. Even if Prime did not stalk Superman and just based him Superman would knock Prime onto a Hypersonic click and it would still be game over.

Since we just assuming all attack rolls were made the AV should be pointed out.

Primes goes two 11s, three 12s, two 11s again, a 10 and two 9s.
Superman goes 12, two 11s, two 10s, two 9s, two 8s, and two 7s.

Primes AV stays pretty steady, 3pt between high/low, but Supermans AV really drops off, 5pt between high/low, so it really comes down to lucky rolls in the end.

Defensively Superman can not get around Primes upfront Invincible click, not to mention the two more mid dial, or his Indomitable ability that allows him to take no pushing damage.

This was a best case scenario where Superman got first strike and every one made their attack rolls. As strange as it sounds Supermans lack of mobility seals the deal. Prime has a move and attack ability every click so once he knocks Superman off HS he just has to stalk until the situation is right to steal momentum.

How about Prime Vs. KC supes CHASE?? that would be a sweet game. considering kc supes has the points to spend on extra feats...i would say winner goes to the old guy (KC).

Hmmm. That would be interesting. Prime can tear into Chase E-2. Chase KC? Im not so sure.

Let's settle this talk on the field next Saturday, boys. Honestly I think E-2 should be able to beat Vet Icons Supes, and I think Prime is kinda made to beat E-2. But with Icons v. E-2 it will all come down to the Impervious rolls. If you make yours, you win. I really don't know about KC Supes. I say we get those guys on the board and see what happens.

thats the most idiotic statement ever
superman prime suks
how do u put mathmatical statements into heroclix
dont u have a kid to take care off lol jk

you're kidding right? a 238 point fig who has a damage potential of 14 (15 with a critical) ?!?!?
natural damage of 5 + meteorite + flurry

feat this bad boy equal to that of E-2 OR PRIME and I'm sure he will win 60% of the time. Only Two Words describe this bad boy: COLOSSAL SLAYER.

I think that the general consensus is the lack of use feats and just a heads up battle. Also when comes to him battling prime the likely hood of him winning is doubtful even with feats. Prime has hypersonic and indomitable Which would mean if you are playing against someone who knew what they were doing they would get the first attack. Again if they knew what they were doing they would range you and stay away from your charge flurry stuff. So if they hit they would knock you into your hypersonic speed and you attacked and hit you would only do one since that is his damage reducing power. Then he could attack you for 6 since he has both close combat and ranged combat expert. Then he would have another turn of that unless you pushed. Needless to say I think even with feats prime has you beat. Is KC chase a Colossal slayer maybe, but definitely not a Prime slayer.

Your odds are better against E2 but still unlikely. He doesn't take pushing damage like prime and he has a free action close combat attack so if you based him your done because he can attack you every turn. If you didn't base him he would range you while hiding in hindering terrain for an added bonus defense and would be able to see through it himself due to the Superman Team ability that your Supes does not have. E2 would have a field day with those defense numbers that are 17 and 16 on every click but his first. Plus E2 defense is ridiculous rising up to a twenty. I do think that the KC chase Supes is worth its points, but I don't think it can stand up against prime or E2 even if you can match them with feats. Unless there is a feat that can give you outwit, which ICWO is the only one that can possibly give you outwit but that means you would have to have a 3 person force and not be heads up.

Lastly, who are you? Do you play at our venue? Sadly I won't be there this week

KC is an amazing figure but he would be destroyed without getting a single hit in! Prime would never have to stop within KC 6 square charge range. KC can also never base Prime because of the Hypersonic so he has no way to pin him down.

I think Justin has already put E-2 up against V Icon Superman and lost. Im not sure how many games they played or who watched. Do you remember much about this match Justin?

In a game that is decided by random factors you have to have a way to evaluate them objectively. The perfect hit offense and always miss defense works pretty good.


He is indeed a Colossal Slayer but Prime does not move like any colossal i have ever seen

Head to head I agree with you, but when you can build a team around him, starting with TK, he really shines at only 238 points.

I hear he use to play, but as far as actually playing I have never seen it. Like Bigfoot i guess?

Noooooooooo! Ultim8Avenger is going to make his first appearance in who knows how long and you are going to miss it!

Justin told me that he put E-2 against Nick's Icon and Nick hit all the inv. rolls. I think we need some best out of matches.

I probably won't be there this week, but what is the format? Do we know about any upcoming weeks?

He just told me he lost and did not give any details. It should be a fun week, and with Justin gone someone else will have a chance to win ! 500pt unrestricted.

Put on your WWJD bracelet... What Would Justin Do?...and dominate the tourney.

Thats a great idea, but i dont have Impossible Man

So we can count on you showing up this week BigDaddyHub. Right?

i am still the best remember that sukas