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#008 V Crimson Avenger
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 6
Points: 29
Keywords: All Star Squadron, Seven Soldiers
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Power Creep???
Seriously?
The first thing that came to my mind when I saw him was, "Cool, a modern age version of..."
lg003 V Spoiler
Team: Batman Ally
Range: 4
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Keywords: Birds of Prey, Gotham City
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We know a few things about points:
1. Actual numbers are dirt cheap.
2. Stealth in the Movement row is cheap.
3. Willpower is cheap.
Know that we get a Spoiler with more range, an extra and better stats.
But we lose unOutwittable Stealth (Batman TA), Leap Climb, a click of CR, and the Gotham City keyword.
The difference? 7 points. I can accept this.
Totally agree. /Rep
Those crying foul with claims of "Power Creep" clearly don't have deep collections.
Quote : Originally Posted by wintremute
I really, really, really wish there was a real-life situation where I could tell a large group of people, "YOU ARE NO LONGER ALLOWED TO SPEAK THE WORDS TO LIONEL RICHIE'S SONG, HELLO, AS YOU ARE INTIMIDATING PEOPLE."
I have to admit you've got me there. Iconic he certainly is not. His only claim to fame is being DC Comics' (and Siegel & Shuster's) first published hero, predating Superman by several years. He was absent from comics for over 40 years, until Roy Thomas (who else?) brought him back in All-Star Squadron.
Still, couldn't we make do with just one fewer character we've had half a dozen versions of before, painted white, to make room for Doc???
Quote : Originally Posted by Jarimy123
I sort of see your point, at the same time, I doubt 1% of heroclix players knows or has even heard of that character.
Just because you are the first, doesn't mean you should be an auto-include in an anniversary set IMO. From my little knowledge of comics at all, maybe someone could fill me in, how really iconic is this person? Yea first DC hero, that's cool and all, but iconic? I dunno about that.
Batman = Iconic. Lanterns = Iconic. Maybe lanterns like the white lantern story-line, and the various "colored" lanterns are not iconic - but anything Green Lantern is very iconic.
But I am open to learn more so feel free to fill me in on why he should be included. Other than being first. That's overhyped. Being the first hero you could absolutely be awful. I guess I'm looking for other reasons than that.
I sort of see your point, at the same time, I doubt 1% of heroclix players knows or has even heard of that character.
Just because you are the first, doesn't mean you should be an auto-include in an anniversary set IMO. From my little knowledge of comics at all, maybe someone could fill me in, how really iconic is this person? Yea first DC hero, that's cool and all, but iconic? I dunno about that.
Batman = Iconic. Lanterns = Iconic. Maybe lanterns like the white lantern story-line, and the various "colored" lanterns are not iconic - but anything Green Lantern is very iconic.
But I am open to learn more so feel free to fill me in on why he should be included. Other than being first. That's overhyped. Being the first hero you could absolutely be awful. I guess I'm looking for other reasons than that.
I'm sorry Jarimy get with the program: You should be complaining that we need a New Number one Bastich!
If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe.-Carl Sagan
I am a sucker for cheap effective pieces.
It makes sense that the preview today is a old figure. I thought it would be Superman or Batman classic versions but Crimson Avenger is cool.
I hope to see a few more figures with his key words.
Modern age Spoiler? I can't believe nobody sees the modern age Scourge of the underworld.
One of my favorite clix ever and he gets a DC counterpart in modern?
For those of you unfamiliar with Scourge- His dial is almost identical, point cost is the same. He has RCE instead of CR and a slightly higher starting attack value.
If I could post dial coparisons I would.
Anybody wanna help me out with that?
TEAL? Teal is for people who have not yet mastered sarcasm to the point it is always evident, even in text form
I actually like the version we have from Justice League. But frag me for a bastich, how do they not have Lobo in every set?
He killed santa clause and the easter bunny and they ain't even real! So how does he not make an appearance in hammer of thor? Hammer, you think Lobo doesn't have a hammer? Brave and the Bold? Are you kidding? You fraggin look up Brave and Bold in the dictionary and you find a picture of nothing - Wizkids erased those two words from the dictionary when they excluded the main man!
I'd like to hear Ziran's thoughts on why Lobo isn't in the 64 spot of every set. #1 SR there is bro. What's the matter Ziran? Cat got yer tongue? Cat got yer whole friggin face?!
Ya better watch out, ya better not cry, Santa 'Bo is comin to town!
I actually like the version we have from Justice League. But frag me for a bastich, how do they not have Lobo in every set?
He killed santa clause and the easter bunny and they ain't even real! So how does he not make an appearance in hammer of thor? Hammer, you think Lobo doesn't have a hammer? Brave and the Bold? Are you kidding? You fraggin look up Brave and Bold in the dictionary and you find a picture of nothing - Wizkids erased those two words from the dictionary when they excluded the main man!
I'd like to hear Ziran's thoughts on why Lobo isn't in the 64 spot of every set. #1 SR there is bro. What's the matter Ziran? Cat got yer tongue? Cat got yer whole friggin face?!
Ya better watch out, ya better not cry, Santa 'Bo is comin to town!
He was also able to materialize in the Authority's Universe and kill his way back to the Easter Bunny.
If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe.-Carl Sagan
It pleases me. The only thing I wish he had was the JSA TA, like the other SSoV members have.
Not to mention other All-Star Squadron members, also packing the JSA TA. I think, though, that he'll see a lot of play, just for his bargain price, and that might not be the case if he had the TA and cost more.
i like the figure and dial but gotta say BOOOOO!!! why are we shown a character like this?? we already got a lower tier character. some ppl buy based on whats previewed. for a preview i think this is a poor choice. come on wizkids, show us something to make us drool!! yes he's good and all but i want a preview of a character that brings some power, not another tie-up piece.
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i like the figure and dial but gotta say BOOOOO!!! why are we shown a character like this?? we already got a lower tier character. some ppl buy based on whats previewed. for a preview i think this is a poor choice. come on wizkids, show us something to make us drool!! yes he's good and all but i want a preview of a character that brings some power, not another tie-up piece.
OR...you can look at it from the perspective that:
a) we see another dial that is solid for its points;
b) another character that, heretofore, has not been introduced into the game yet;
c) a character that has been hailed as the hero that launched the golden age in DC canon and thus fits the DC 75th theme to a "T".
Regardless, can't please everyone.
Quote : Originally Posted by wintremute
I really, really, really wish there was a real-life situation where I could tell a large group of people, "YOU ARE NO LONGER ALLOWED TO SPEAK THE WORDS TO LIONEL RICHIE'S SONG, HELLO, AS YOU ARE INTIMIDATING PEOPLE."