And in Marvel's.

Wow, regular Dirk is a pretty decent piece with a nasty trait like that. He cancels TA's? Did we just find the easiest answer to Power Cosmic ever?

Man I hate zombies. But at least it's not a sculpt of him eating someone else (Giant-man!).

The regular Dirk looks like fun though.

This dude looks like a character from Dragon Ball (he has a scouter and he reminds me some kind of stupid japanese villian for the pose and clothes)

Both of these are must haves for me, if not for the character then for their powers. Just when I'd lost hope they'd ever make any more zombies we get the most ridiculous one of all. Its like Wacko Jacko only playable.

I like both versions and am a fan of Nextwave. Oh and they posted Modok on heroclix.com

Well after reading all the replies, and thinking about it, here are some thoughts.

Suicide Squad as a team name is far less "over the top" than the card saying a character would like to "reinvent suicide as a group activity."

If the character had indeed committed suicide, and it was just plainly stated, I would have less of a problem with it. Instead, this borders on the homicide/suicide bomber type of issue.

Suicide is a fact of life. It still doesn't mean it needs to be referenced on the back of a Heroclix character card. In the same vein, the Jokers ten thousand murders don't need to be explicitly referenced, and neither does the rape of Sue Dibney by Dr. Light.

Comic book fans ALREADY know that stuff. It's not a surprise. I just think that the Successful Dirk Anger card is just over the top, it's lazy, and it's not clever.

And again, I'm not a prude, or a Puritan, or anything such. I like zombie stuff. I loved Horrorclix, I watch violent movies but not violent movies just for the sake of violence.

And I know there are many comic book characters who kill and do many dastardly things, but again, they don't have to all be referenced on the Heroclix card.

Take Punisher for instance. He kills all the time. What does his character card say?

Obviously we have some serious subject matter here. I just think it's handled more tastefully because of the fact that the Punisher is a serious character, and Dirk Anger appears not to be.

And we have already said that there are comic book characters that will NEVER be included in Heroclix for one reason or another, mostly because of Nazi imagery. Obviously NECA/Wizkids and Marvel/DC as property owners have to "police" the product they put out. In this case, I just think they could have left out the "suicide as a group activity" line, and the character card/game piece and Heroclix players would have been no worse off.

And if someone became interested in Dirk Anger BECAUSE of the game piece and character card, then they can go read all about him.

It's like this: I'd rather see NO biographical information on the character cards, than incorrect or over the top biographical information.

M.O.D.O.K dial/sculpt is dope ... thankfully because all previews save Steve Rogers have been underwhelming for me

actually while the Captain's Bio Text was wrong (as was his named Impervious power)...Dirk's is correct. that is a LIne he said while flying the Aeromarine...

No, I can see that the line was "correct," but I just don't think they HAD to use it.

Again, that's what I meant by showing a little restraint, and possibly better judgement.

Once the game pieces and cards are out for sale, there's no "fixing" them. It's kind of like the Logan with cigar thing.

If the cigar was going to be any kind of issue, they probably should have realized that before printing those pieces.

I mean look, one cursory glance at the Successful Dirk Anger's card and I was like, hold on now....

Though it is cool to see the NECA Wizkids version of a zombie dial.

oh No I Got that from your post I'm just saying it's not incorrect NOR Over the Top..it was in teh series.


Eh Not really. Again maybe it's because we're offended by different things I mean...honestly I'm more offended by Hank Pym than this figure....I mean I get where you're coming from... but at the same time nothing should be off limits just because people are "offended". Because everyone's going to be offended by something. SURE To people NOT In the game and with a CURSORY Knowledge of Comics they're going to be more offended by Successful Drk than say...Icons JOker but this really isn't a set meant to introduce new players. ITs for experienced players (and I Suppose some new though its not the main point) and people who understand the comics.


So for me:

Icons Joker>Hank Pym> Zombie Dirk.


though as it stands I'm not terribly offended by even Icons Joker to start gasping when I see him hit the field (even on a LAMP Team : P)

What's with the 10 year-old reaction ? I would think most of us have been alive long enough to have figured out that not everybody likes everything (and, no, that's not limited to Clix). Do you voice your feelings on everything you don't like? For each bad commercial you see, do you say, "That's stupid," out loud at the end of it? Do you do the same every time somebody says something you don't like? Do you do it from some feeling of self-importance, or to gain the acceptance of like-minded people who will see the post? I mean, I'd get it if you wrote about the reasons you didn't like the dial, or the sculpt, or something constructive. Heck, I'd even understand if you said you were just doing it to vent your frustration or up your post count. But as it is, it's visual waste.

My apologies for singling you out, as it's not just you, and I also apologize if you are actually 10 years old...

Make sure to supply your children's hermetic bubbles with oxygen, otherwise they will suffocate...

If we can have a team named "Suicide Squad," then having a character bio mention that Dirk engaged in group suicide should be allowed. To the hypothetical children that you're looking out for, I don't think the difference between the two uses of "suicide" will be so obvious. Heck, at least Dirk's is just flavor text. The team ability gives you a benefit when friendly pieces are ko'd, a power that encourages pushing bystanders to death (committing suicide). That's way more likely to come up in a game than the bio on the back of the card, something that many players don't read.


Here's the thing though, this sculpt represents Dirk in a look that he sported for only two pages (three if you count his silhouette). In those pages, Dirk only does the following:

1) Explains his zombie switch
2) Demands brains
3) Orders the ship to try to ram Nextwave's ship
4) Remarks on reinventing suicide and says "**** all of you."


Dr. Light's got decades of history that can be included in his bio. The rape is not central to the character's publication history. Likewise, there's a lot more to Joker than just the kill count he has. Dirk, on the other hand, in his zombified appearance, only does one thing outside of talk: drive his ship into the ground and kill himself and his crew. It's possible the Wizkids bio writer just didn't know what else to say about this version of Dirk.



I will agree with this. We would all be fine without the quote from the issue. However, we're past the point of changing that, so it's not worth worrying about, in my eyes. After all, I'm playing a game were I can field a team called the Suicide Squad, there's a sculpt of Giant Man eating Black Panther, and characters like Dark Beast and Black Adam have a pile of skulls on their bases. A mention of suicide in some flavor text seems pretty trivial compared to all of that.

I would, however, assert that we're fine with it now.