Bingo.

At least nobody asked them how many in facts they sacrificed, and caused them to cancel their AMA...

That has been resolved between me and the user, you do not need to stir things up again.

One point: I think that a lot of the more reasonable (YMMV) negativity would dissipate considerably if WK would actively address issues with the line by A) being proactive (e.g. not waiting for people to freak out before addressing widespread quality control issues as with WatX), B) being more communicative in general.

That, however, brings me to another point...

I think that some members have unrealistic expectations for the game and/or will not be satisfied no matter what strides WK makes. Granted, WK could stand to gain a lot more good will with a certain segment of the population, but there are some folks with whom WK cannot win.

I'm less concerned with the unreasonable requests/posts/posters than I am with the folks who can constructively and intelligently discuss certain matters.

TL;DR - I think that legitimate criticism and rampant negativity shouldn't be conflated.

That's pretty much the only thing they appear to care about.

Many (if not most) people can. Some of them have reach a point where they have been so much disapointed that it has became alot more difficult to discuss constructively with them. It's not too late for everyone but wizkids has to hurry up. They need to make a step in the right direction and it's mostly something about *communicating*. I know reading some rants here, it's sometime difficult to remember, but alot of the guys who are actively and "constantly" ranting here USED TO BE positive contributors and even actively participating in the promotion of the game not so long ago. All this energy could be used better and more positvely. They have to find a way to make us trust them again.

Wizkids should (choose one or more)

1/ hire more skilled people in communication
2/ make better quality control
3/ change their marketing attitude/ways

and they won't have to assert those "situations" after they arise since they won't arise in the first place. And yes, i'm convinced *I* would do a better job than they currently do, and have a ton of names in mind of people here who seems like they also could do a better job. Call me incredibly crazy if you want.

So, if we want to get attention from them, we have to be more positive ? Like... not criticising them at all, perhaps. The kind of "blind positiveness" they enforce by deleting post on ther FB page ? Not for me. They can keep their news and their product if they are reacting like that. There are tons of better communicating, more respectful game-makers.

I didn't see the most important question that should have been asked...

Where is our colossal Smaug figure?

They are delicate flowers after all.

Yup. We're good here, no beef and no hurt feelings.

I agree. I think Wizkids could spin the negativity into a positive atmosphere pretty quickly with a change to how they handle PR.

That's why I don't conflate. Legit criticism: healthy for the game. Necessary, in my eyes. Unreasonable complaints: unhealthy for the atmosphere on the forums, if nothing else. They also diminish legit complaints by making them harder to pick out at a casual glance. I doubt Wizkids wants to wade through this so that they can find the legit concerns, you know?

Look, can we stop saying everything is a slap in the face?

Can we say slap on the ass instead? It's altogther more pleasant for both slapper and slappee and takes full advantage of ass being taken off the filter.

I say HCRealms has an ass in dire need of being taken advantage of.

What's a reddit?

This right here.. it's fairly obvious the only time we get any communication whatsoever is when WK announces a new project or concept and want to drum up their hype machine. How many posts have they made in this regard and then NEVER appeared in the same thread again to answer any questions that are directed towards them? Even when we can SEE THEIR NAMES browsing the thread. At this point all I can picture is them sitting back and having a laugh at our expense watching us get our panties in a twist over the issues plaguing this game.

Doing so would be a slap in the face to hyperbole everywhere.

From the reddit, in regards to an invitation to do a podcast:

I suspect that they feel the same way about addressing complaints/questions. Out of 100 questions, 25 of them might be reasonable/legitimate concerns, out of that 25, 10 of them might be "easily" answered (in a single, final answer-esque thread post), of those 10, they might have time in any given day/week to answer 1.

I think WK thinks that answering 1 and leaving 99 others out will only exacerbate entitlement issues.

I wasn't saying that. Redditors do criticize Wizkids and Heroclix quite a bit, I was saying the community is more positive and helpful and that may have been a motive in them going that route with their publicity. I'm not defending their choices, just pointing out why one venue may be better than another for marketing reasons.

There are plenty of people that asked poignant questions that were answered and yes, plenty weren't but like I said, they have no obligation to do so. They replied to what they wanted to. As a Wizkids fan, I'm ok with that.

However, you do have the right to disagree.

This is a really dumb discussion. AMAs are never really preannounced. They just happen. Either you are there for them, or you aren't.

Point of order: no discussion is dumb, provided something useful comes out of it. For anyone.

Is it just me, or was the layout of that site so horrid you couldn't tell what was going on? Like, who was saying what and replying to whom? It looked like a jumbled mess.