Superman, Avatar of Peace: DJL-022

And I am happy to see that my theory about Ally (relating it to powering up a character) was for the most part correct.

Bring on the number filling!

1-21 A thru Superman...hmmmm

My pure speculation, using Biz's list since I am desperately under-learned in the DC Universe.

1.Atom
2.Aquaman
3.Aquaman
4.Barry Allen : Flash
5.Barry Allen : Flash
6.Batman
7.Batman
8.Big Barda
9.Dinah Laurel Lance : Black Canary
10.Elongated Man
11.Firestorm (confirmed but not by #)
12.Hal Jordan
13.Hawkgirl
14.Hawkman (confirmed but not by #)
15.John Henry Irons : Steel
16.Martian Manhunter
17.Martian Manhunter
18.Oliver Queen : Green Arrow
19.Orion
20.Plastic Man
21.Red Tornado (confirmed but not by #)

I expect #23 to be the other Superman, since I couldn't think of a version before "Avatar"

Again, just some thoughts.

Shouldn't there be some version of Wally West <> The Flash on there somewhere?

There would be, but it would be after #23. and I was only going up to the preview.:)

Anybody willing to make any predictions which character is going to act as a universal powerup like Harley does for Arkham? Considering the new keyword, I think it's only to be expected.

Now we have a preview, and two new neat mechanics as well. Now, for my take on who can take the slots before Supes:

001.Aquaman
002.Aquaman
003.Atom
004.Aztek
005.Barry Allen<>Flash
006.Batman
007.Big Barda
008.Conner Hawke<>Green Arrow
009.Dinah Laurel Lance<>Black Canary
010.Firestorm
011.Hal Jordan<>Green Lantern
012.Hawkgirl
013.Hawkman
014.John Henry Irons<>Steel
015.John Stewart<>Green Lantern
016.J’onn J’onzz<>Martian Manhunter
017.Kyle Rayner<>Green Lantern
018.Oliver Queen<>Green Arrow
019.Orion
020.Plastic Man
021.Red Tornado

Yes, I am ashamed of my alphabetical error (Aquaman & Atom) :disappoin, but I like the look of that list.

Much apologies for my slowness. I was a bit busy. Supes is the only preview so far, right?

He looks pretty cool. :)

1 Aquaman
2 Barry Allen <> Flash
3 Batman
4 Batman
5 Big Barda
6 Billy Batson <> Captain Marvel
7 Dinah Laurel Lance <> Black Canary
8 Hal Jordan <> Green Lantern
9 Hawkman
10 John Henry Irons <> Steel
11 John Stewart <> Green Lantern
12 Kent Nelson <> Dr. Fate
13 Kyle Rayner <> Green Lantern
14 Martian Manhunter
15 Oliver Queen <> Green Arrow
16 Orion
17 Plastic Man
18 Ray Palmer <> Atom
19 Red Tornado
20 Ronnie Raymond <> Firestorm
21 Shiera Hall <> Hawkgirl
22 Superman, Avatar of Peace
23 Superman
24 Wally West <> Flash
25 Wally West <> Flash
26 Wonder Woman
27 Wonder Woman
28 Zatanna

Here's a guess at what the JLA line-up will look like. Based in part on the distribution of Avengers in MAV.

I corrected for Identities in some of the earlier lists, like Atom, Firestorm, and Hawkgirl. I left Hawkman in limbo, as right now the Carter Hall and Katar Hol versions are merged.

Kent Nelson's a strange inclusion ... but I think there's a good chance since the female Dr. Fate, Linda Strauss, will almost certainly be in JLI. And he'll make a good 8-Drop now that we know Supes won't be it ;-)

No double for J'onn, since I bet we'll get a JLI version as well.

Orion and Big Barda likely to be dual-affiliated, giving New Gods a shot in the arm.

No Blue Beetle, Guy Gardner, etc. since they'll be in JLI. Ditto on Sue Dibny, who I considered as a 1-Drop. JLA might be like New Gods, with no 1.

Ah, but there are so many ways to do it! They could steal Harley Quinn from Arkham, possibly with Snapper Carr. But they could also take a note from the Avengers' Quinjet and get powered-up by a different kind of discard.

And to round out the options, remember that Teen Titans actually have two means of getting that important power-up, so we could have the Watchtower with an activated ability, or even a "New League Line-Up" style plot twist. And I have to hope that some plot twist gives us one of those shadowed-faces-of-the-new-roster images.

All this was meant to say, though, that the possibilities are wide open. I wouldn't be surprised to see a character that functions as the ultimate Ally, either; someone like Centurious, who would let his friends benefit from Ally abilities, or someone like Black Mask/John Stewart, who is designed to benefit from every other Ally ability on the field.

I have to admit I haven't read much JLA since Grant Morrison left, but was Captain Marvel in the JLA or just the JLI?

Well he helped out the JLA a few times so he would be a reservist member.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here: I think at best we'll see one copy of Superman and Batman for the Justice League. We only saw two copies each for Cap, Iron Man and Thor in Avengers, and that was the first appearance for each, whereas there are five different Batmen and 8 different Supermen already.

Although I agree that Big Barda and Orion are likely appearances in this set (the New Gods could use the dual-aligned boost), I actually think they're better odds for inclusion in the JLI, which has relatively fewer characters in it. Ditto Captain Marvel, who has never actually been a "JLA" member apart from being a reservist like just about the entire DC Universe is, and Kent Nelson, who was never a JLA member at all.

So that's six slots, and I think we can fill those slots up reeeeal easy. Elongated Man, Vibe, Hank Heywood III <> Steel, Connor Hawke <> Green Arrow, Major Disaster and Manitou Raven. Possibly with Snapper Carr somewhere in there to boot. Of course, all of this assumes that the JLA will only have 28 slots for characters, but basing that off Avengers strikes me as kind of silly seeing as how Avengers was a five-team set and this, uh, isn't.

I don't know how likely Major Disaster is, though he could also appear on JLI, (Antarctica,) I suppose. I actually don't expect to see Manitou Raven at all this set, despite Obsidian Age and Elite. I do think Huntress will fill in the lower JLA curve, though, and I feel Vixen or Gypsy would be more likely to show up than Vibe, of the old Detroit days, since they've had longer lives and more League exposure.