No. Ultimates TA is exactly the Superman TA, which DOES allow you to ignore hindering terrain on movement, but doesn't let you change elevation or ignore character bases during movement.

Ok, all seem cool, BUT.....

On second thought, still seem cool. Dunno about Cap having Impervious, but hey, at least he's worth playing.

As far as a complaint, take a look at the sculpt of Cap. Can we say a bit off on scale for the head?

yeah, thought this was an Arwen King model....

MAN! I just hope marvel takes a page from DCs book and concentrates on the paint jobs...

I'll be popping that Doc Ock right off that base and onto my extra CT ones. :-D

Cap A. - You have to spush him or he will got knocked passed his imperve. I think that sucks.

G. Rider - Smoke Cloud? Why? Same with Punisher. Godd fig though.

Wolvie - Same prob as Cap. You need to push him or he will get knocked passe dhis tougness.

Ock - Sucks

Spidy - Very nice.

I don't anyone to ever say that Batman is overpowered/undercosted EVER AGAIN!!!
The E and V versions of Cap are MONSTERS, they can see thru stealth and charge thru hindering terrain, and exploit weakness and his V attack tops out at 12!!! (I like the impervious clicks too)
The Batman vs Cap question has obviously been answered in the world of HC.

Batman is overcosted.

Okay, okay - Batman is undercosted AND overpowered. Sorry, kwsazul - I tried to agree with you.. it just didn't stick.



But seriously, this Cap is definately one bad mama-jama!

Huh! I can think of 1 right off the top of my head. Give him one of the most powerful combos in clix. Charge, B/C/F, and EW. Now tell me doesn't that change his whole dynamic a lot more. Think about it, he should have a diffrence between his Adamantium claws and other B/C/F'ers regular swords and Claws and teeth. His claws should be able to by pass defenses no sweat. Alas, maybe in the next set or If WIZKIDS is reading these then make an LE w/ EW, Charge and B/C/F please.

Well, we now have the first natural batman outwitter. Brainiac 5 can do it as long as he has a Supes TA character on his team and now Cap can do it on his second click. Not bad.

I think the Cap/Bats fight will still be rather close, however. It's going to be an "I outwit your outwit" kind of battle. Cap outwit's Batman's LC to catch up to him, Bats outwits Cap's outwit and runs away... it'll tie up Batman's outwit, but it'll still be hard to pin him down. I'm hoping Ult Hawkeye gets RS and a 10 range with a decent attack.

I'm really disappointed by the Wolverine. He costs a bunch more than Logan, but has worse stats. WTF? The UXmen TA can't be worth that much...
I hear ya'll about the Smoke Cloud for Ghost Rider. Definitely weird. But at least he gets incap further down the dial.
Spidey and Cap look great, though, and I'd probably play Ock if I pulled him.

I looked at V Caps' stats first, then just sat there thinking 'Holy ####' for a minute. Wish you didn't have to push him to get to his Imp and that he had Willpower instead of CR. Still think that Batman's Willpower/Leap-Climb/Incap/Outwit combo is overall superior but offset by his lower attack.

Spidey: Cheap, but useful enough. He's got that 'yoink!' thing going.

GR: Solid....EXCEPT HE DOESN'T HAVE AND HAS NEVER HAD THE POWER 'SMOKE CLOUD'!!! IT IS AN UTTERLY POINTLESS AND COMPLETELY INAPPROPRIATE POWER FOR HIM!!!!

Doc Ock: Different, but not terribly intersting. Front loaded Outwit and ending Flurry are nice though. No defensive powers? He'll die fast, but leave a good-looking sculpt.

Wolverine: Minor tweaks. Doesn't interest me much I'm afraid.

I dont think its a big deal his imp. is on the second click. It makes sence. Cap never just rushes headlong into a fight where people have the range on him. He'll move from cover to cover, hence es/d. Give him a 19 defence against range guys. Move him from hindering to hindering, it goes up to 20. Not to many guys are going to hit that, so they'll close. Now that hes close enough, you push Cap onto his second click. I can just see everyone pushing him the second turn of the game....

For the people complaining about Ghost Rider's Smoke Cloud...

The wheels of the bike are on fire, constantly generating smoke all the time. Not to mention his flaming head.

Any pic I've seen of Ghost Rider generally has him emerging from a huge cloud of flame and smoke and what-not. Part of his mystique.

So all you suckas what hype up the whole 'strategy rules' aspect should start finding cool ways to use smoke cloud.

Hopefully, the next preview is Mysterio or MODOK. Deadpool is rumored for the next set, so I'll save my championing until then.

Vote MODOK in 2004 - because you can't go wrong with a bowl haircut the size of a swimming pool.

Is Cap undercosted?

I punched the numbers on the Vet into Retardog's formula .93k. If the Ultimates TA costs the same as the Superman TA, I calculate Cap at 109 points without even counting Combat Reflexes or Exploit Weakness. The 97% point break puts him at 106...

Guys, stop complaining about Doc Ock already... Marquee weekend, you'll be singing his praises. Apart from Diablo, how many villains have first-click Outwit?

I don't understand. Why does the Dan Ketch Ghost Rider have smoke cloud? That makes no sense. The 90's Ghost Rider has never done anything even resembling smoke cloud. Barrier at BEST! I'd have ratehr WK left the power off completely.
In other news, anyone predicting a FF Ghost Rider LE?