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I think this is a ranked town-to-scum list. Roy is near the bottom, joh is right in the middle. Darkstone a spot below Roy (MP/JJJ is the only more suspicious player, apparently) and killingjoke is the second strongest townie read he has despite also not acknowledging his vig claim in a meaningful way. This a common theme among the dead bad guys.
Too true. I_R, power and targets, please. I know you claim that you were blocked. I wasn't on the Roy lynch, so I am not entirely writing you off as scum, but want to hear more from you.
Vote: Immortal_Raven
We're onto Day 4 now. jackofheart's came out with a joint suspicion (as we all did) against Adamical and Immortal_Raven. killingjoke promptly hopped right on... the case against Immportal_Raven. Completely ignoring that adamical is also a person of interest.
Question(s) for colonialbob or any regular player here:
How do mafia team kills work? Is there typically one player assigned to do the killing each night? Is it a joint team kill? Does the killer alternate per night?
Yes. I claimed vigilante on D2 right before you said that you had doubled me. I also said I didn't take your doubling because I didn't want to risk potentially taking our two townies (I took out Dboy sadly).
I would really like to hear more from adamical. Unfortunately for I_R, doctor is a hard claim to prove, but we haven't had any other townspeople claim doctor yet, so there is a small margin of validity to his claim. I am. I am not attempting to make a case for I_R, just stating my view of the situation at the moment.
This is in response to Jay asking kj who he's most suspicious of. I read this post like this:
"adamical is suspicious, but here's all the reasons we should lynch Immortal_Raven."
My eyes are starting to shut themselves, so I need to cut myself off now.
An observation I've begun to make as I'm looking back over the thread is that Darkstone appears very relaxed about everything in the game and nonchalant about his night actions (rolling dice to pick his night 3 targets, acting mostly out of self-protection). I am inclined to say this is a decent look, but again, it's not something I'm willing to let him off the hook for. I might have tunnel-vision turned on, but I've come out of this feeling worse about killingjoke and better about darkstone.
change vote killingjoke
I have another busy day tomorrow but I hope I'll be able to do a little more work in here myself. And even if I can't, I hope that you all can. We're so close to winning this thing I can taste it. Let's get it done.
Hmm. Okay. I was the first vote on both Adam and JoH. I admit, my night kills haven't been very Town-friendly, but my voting for the most part had.
Also, how am I your only option? Afrcngy just claimed that he targeted Darkstone N4 and that CMD came up as a result. That would mean that either he is lying, or that Darkstone has been lying about being a busdriver all along (or I suppose he could have been MD'd).
Afrcngy, were you silenced last phase?
I do not like that killingjoke takes credit for being the "first to vote adam". As I just spent some time highlighting, killingjoke seemed more focused on steering the lynch away from adam the day he was lynched until his fate became inevitable.
I've not looked at his jackofhearts claim either. But I will ask this question for kj: if you were so confident about these suspects so as to offer the "first votes" for them on the days where they were lynched, why not just shoot them at night?
I am off to sleep now. I still want to dig up IR's Night 2 target. Darkstone's recent point against kj's actions from that night and subsequent day are too obvious to be overlooked. He claims to be the vigilante and yet his only kill in the game comes from a night where there was no other kill, and we seem to have no evidence to suggest that the mafia kill was prevented in any way that night. I need killingjoke to explain how that's not damning.
And then I need him to present a big juicy case against darkstone. Because that's what the holidays are for.
Targeted JoH N1 (failed)
Silver N2 and N3. Failed N3.
I finally figured out how to search the thread just as I was heading off. Alright cool. So now we know that Immortal_Raven, the only town player capable of preventing a scum kill in this game, was on Silver Lantern Night 2. Any reason we should not be lynching killingjoke today? Also any reason we didn't catch this sooner?
Sorry for making these last 2 pages all mine. This old timer does ramble on.
I'm not sure I follow. Is a scum misdirector incapable of also killing on the same night that they misdirect?
Quote : Originally Posted by Sloonei
Question(s) for colonialbob or any regular player here:
How do mafia team kills work? Is there typically one player assigned to do the killing each night? Is it a joint team kill? Does the killer alternate per night?
Typically the way it works is that one member of the mafia performs the kill as their night action instead of using their regular Power. There are exceptions to this, but they are rare.
I am off to sleep now. I still want to dig up IR's Night 2 target. Darkstone's recent point against kj's actions from that night and subsequent day are too obvious to be overlooked. He claims to be the vigilante and yet his only kill in the game comes from a night where there was no other kill, and we seem to have no evidence to suggest that the mafia kill was prevented in any way that night. I need killingjoke to explain how that's not damning.
And then I need him to present a big juicy case against darkstone. Because that's what the holidays are for.
I realize you might be tired, so let's go with that, but that is completely false. I claimed to kill BOTH DestructoBoy as well as Immortal_Raven. My judgement has been pretty off this game and I have been playing fairly lazily. Also, if Darkstone wants to throw out hypothetical situations and assumptions, I will do the same:
We see after N2 a lot of Mafia interaction. Roy claims that he Tracks Adamical, in which he finds that Adamical Jailkeeps Darkstone. Darkstone claimed that he Busdrove himself and Sloonei, which is supposedly the reason that JJJ receives a town read from his cop result on Darkstone.
I believe adam was simply backing up Darkstone's claim of "being messed with" on N2. That should have allowed JJJ to receive the Town copping on DS that night (if we are going under the assumption that the jailkeep does not block any night actions from happening). There seems to be a lot of collusion from mafia regarding that evening. Roy backing up adam, adam saying that he targeted DS, and JoH even supports Roy's claim.
I'm sorry I am not posting any quotes or direct references, but Sloonei, I encourage you to look back between N2 and the end of D4 to see what transpired and the evidence from SilverLantern and JJJ. I will post direct references after work.
Perhaps I will find that this was addressed in real time, but I want to make a note of this post from Day 3. Darkstone does not have an info-gathering role. What "results" are being explained here?
We see after N2 a lot of Mafia interaction. Roy claims that he Tracks Adamical, in which he finds that Adamical Jailkeeps Darkstone. Darkstone claimed that he Busdrove himself and Sloonei, which is supposedly the reason that JJJ receives a town read from his cop result on Darkstone.
I believe adam was simply backing up Darkstone's claim of "being messed with" on N2. That should have allowed JJJ to receive the Town copping on DS that night (if we are going under the assumption that the jailkeep does not block any night actions from happening). k.
Those didn't happen on the same. N2 was when I was jail kept, N3 was when I swapped with Sloonei.
You are correct though, you did kill I_R. On a night when their was Also no mafia kill.
If you go by the write ups, Dboys kill involved a whip. The I_R kill involved being killed by horses. Last night's kill also involved horses.
This is tough. You are both raising good points. I still feel like Darkstone is the last mafia. I am just going to go with my gut on this one and say Vote Darkstone.
I'll try to keep an eye on the thread at work today and will be back on in about 9 hours.