Ewww. Yeah, that's nasty. My sister would do it with her Mac n cheese as well. Just gross.

I always find it odd when you say you hate Superman when you have Deus Ex Machina boy as your avatar and namesake.

Probably the same thing I use: that they are still basically stuntmen/women. The bumps they take and the stresses on their bodies is very real.

If this stuff gets whined into being Modern Age/Golden Age/regular-HC legal, I'm out. Done. Too much of a shift for me.

Think of it this way if it helps.

Haven studied Tolkien. Spent a lot of time getting to know it because it meant something to him.

Does he get pissed when someone calls something Tolkien and it really isn't? Does he spend his money on it? Does he promote it to others?

Now realize that I spent years of my life studying cuisines and learning to respect them. Same thing, different genre.

With all due respect...I maintain...the answer is "Christy Mathewson."

It only matters for Worlds. Every(any)body else just pretends it has meaning.

See?

You guys are listing all these horrible nasty things (and rightfully so) and I see it as just as disgusting when I see someone put ketchup on a hot dog.


Or worse yet, breaded chicken.

LISTEN UP CRETINS OF EARTH: JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING IS BREADED AND FRIED DOES NOT MEAN KETCHUP SHOULD GO ON IT!

Quick version: would you call any of the following "fake?"

-A performance of "Twelfth Night" (or any play)
-A ballet
-A primetime crime procedural
-A book

Chances are no, you wouldn't, as they're all just storytelling media. Ditto pro wrestling.

As for the "authenticity" of the matches, yes, the outcomes are entirely pre-determined. What goes on from bell to bell, however, is not. The bumps/injuries/hazards are VERY real, and there is an art to being able to tell a great story within the confines of a now 20-minute match (used to be closer to an hour).

Where's Miraclo?

I'd take the "whine" part out of your post and then agree with you. REALLY?

Ships flying around on Clix bases in my game = ShipClix not HeroClix.

Okay, that can't even happen.

Did I just get validated in a round about way?

*passes out*

I dunno. The 'watered down' gripers may have won their first real victory in my book.

OK, I get it. For me, food is food, but I can respect that it is art to some.