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What you have to do know is put my comment in context.
Read the silly stuff being posted by rufus and you will see why that comment is pertinent to his questioning whether the Orangies understand the intent of the rule at hand.
Do I have to?
Quote : Originally Posted by IceHot
Clearly they do, because clearly they discussed it with GD. Which why its clearly spelled out in the PG.
If they didnt discuss it with GD it wouldnt be in the players guide.
What's in the Player's Guide? (I think you mean page 10 of the rulebook, right?)
I'm ashamed to have less reputation points than you.
EDIT: Until now! Haha, thanks BigDaddyHub!
Gotcha, too.
"within line of fire" is defined in the rulebook. It means that "there must exist a non-blocked line of fire between the source of the game effect and its target"
"within line of fire" is defined in the rulebook. It means that "there must exist a non-blocked line of fire between the source of the game effect and its target"
Give it time. You've been at it 8 times longer than I have.
ya most of my rep came when i found the Pictures of the BatB brick figure and Black hand and posted a thread- first, but oh well, like that will ever happen again
"within line of fire" is defined in the rulebook. It means that "there must exist a non-blocked line of fire between the source of the game effect and its target"
This is where I was getting confused because the rulebook does not say "within line of fire" anywhere in it. It says "within range and line of fire" I thought the "within" was pertaining only to the range and the "line of fire" was meant to mean clear line of fire. It should be worded in the rulebook "within range and within line of fire" that way it would help to differentiate between the two seperate meanings of within.
Your response where you said
Quote : Originally Posted by Harpua
It says: "Characters within line of fire can't use the Spider-Man team ability. "
This means that if he can draw LoF, then the TA can't be used.
didn't help clarify it to me because I was thinking he can draw a line of fire and the character with the TA is within the range of that line of fire.
Personally, I hope that if JJJ can draw a LOF to the Spider-Man Ally during the action that the use of SA TA is lost.
What happens if he's occupying a space/square he wouldn't otherwise be able to occupy? Like, he borrows the Serpent Society TA and crosses within LoF while on Elevated Blocking Terrain?
Vulture: I'll drop you from the sky and watch you drop like a rag doll! Spider-Man: And this'll be when? After Ock rips me limb from limb? Or after Venom eats my brains? Oh, I almost forgot; he also has dibs on my spleen...
LINE OF FIRE
Before making a ranged combat attack, you must
determine if the attacker can draw a line of fire to
the target and if the target is within range. You are
allowed to check the map to see which targets are
valid targets at any time.
So it seems to me that any time a spider ally would become within line of fire then the TA would not be able to be used, but is the TA being used while he is copying another TA or does it only get used the instant he tries to copy another TA? Personally I think that if Spiderman is copying the Serpent Society TA then he is using the Spiderman TA the whole time he is copying. If this is the case it is going to result in a whole lot of problems.
According to what was just posted, i would rule that If Spider-man (copying Batman) in hindering With JJJ looking at his bush (hehe) stepped out of hindering to go move to a dumpster, if JJJ had clear line at any point during the move, Spidey is nuked
What happens if he's occupying a space/square he wouldn't otherwise be able to occupy? Like, he borrows the Serpent Society TA and crosses within LoF while on Elevated Blocking Terrain?
Can't draw LOF through blocking terrain. So not a problem.
According to what was just posted, i would rule that If Spider-man (copying Batman) in hindering With JJJ looking at his bush (hehe) stepped out of hindering to go move to a dumpster, if JJJ had clear line at any point during the move, Spidey is nuked
Keep in mind, though, that all Spidey has to do is duck back under cover of a wall (or some such thing) at the end of the movement, once again blocking LOF, and he could use his TA again.
Bascially, the only way JJJ's trait will REALLY matter mid-movement is if the character is copying some kind of movement related TA (like the Ultimates or Serpent Society) and gets caught mid-field in a bunch of hindering terrain or something like that. Otherwise, it doesn't much matter if they are copying something or not.