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We have a guy at our venue who consistently rolls exactly ONE LESS than what he needs to score a hit. It happens in at least 50% of his rolls. It happens so often that the act of rolling exactly one less than you need to score a hit is now a noun bearing his name.
It doesn't matter how often he changes dice, or whose dice he uses, or whether the dice are old or fresh, or whether the table is slanted or straight, or whether or not one die is larger than the other, or whether or not one die has a booger on it, or whether or not the planets are in a certain alignment, or whether or not Uri Geller is rockin' the house with his psychokinetic abilities.
Period.
So screw your "consistent laws of probability" in both of its ears -- I contend that it fails to exist and that some people are just plain cursed.
you must be repped for bringing up Uri Gellar!
Heroclix is ALL luck
last night I played:
GX036 Professor X
100 CL1-07 Mr. Fantastic
149 SI033 Dr. Strange
202 WS014 Iron Man w/25 AVF003 Fortitude
1st game, I mostly missed, my opponent mostly hit, loss.
he had alot of stealth, But Doc Strange ignores that ####, I perplexed Strange out the Wazoo and still missed.
2nd game, I hit alot, (nailing Zenhatten for 6 on my first action.) Very little of the damage I inflicted stuck, My opponent successfully hit EVERY support roll, and rolled no less than 4 for the amount healed.
3rd game my opponent rolled crappy, I rolled great.
SO, I built a team of badasses, WOS Iron man has 11 attack, 18 def. and 4dmg, and can't be outwitted. at certain points in the game I have the possibility of 5 perplexes to work with.
I've heard the same from my friend. In his case, though, it seems to be partly true; in some 10 casual games we've played one-on-one, he's had trouble rolling better than 5 while I've had trouble ever rolling below an 8.
GX036 Professor X
100 CL1-07 Mr. Fantastic
149 SI033 Dr. Strange
202 WS014 Iron Man w/25 AVF003 Fortitude
1st game, I mostly missed, my opponent mostly hit, loss.
he had alot of stealth, But Doc Strange ignores that ####, I perplexed Strange out the Wazoo and still missed.
2nd game, I hit alot, (nailing Zenhatten for 6 on my first action.) Very little of the damage I inflicted stuck, My opponent successfully hit EVERY support roll, and rolled no less than 4 for the amount healed.
3rd game my opponent rolled crappy, I rolled great.
SO, I built a team of badasses, WOS Iron man has 11 attack, 18 def. and 4dmg, and can't be outwitted. at certain points in the game I have the possibility of 5 perplexes to work with.
still go 1-2, and it was luck. ALL luck.
Well, now that I know that Heroclix is ALL luck, I guess I don't even have to worry about team building or positioning. I'll just bring a team of all Moloids and roll some dice, because clearly nothing in the game matters except luck.
Seriously, Heroclix is a game of luck and skill. Saying it is all luck is completely ridiculous. Even more so than the people trying to argue that luck isn't a factor at all.
Quote : Originally Posted by Magnito
In other words, it's all Vlad's fault.
Quote : Originally Posted by Masenko
Though I'm pretty sure if we ever meet rl, you get a free junk shot on me.
Quote : Originally Posted by Thrumble Funk
Vlad is neither good nor evil. He is simply Legal.
Bad rolls CAN extend to a full 3 round tournement though. I went a full tournement rarely rolling above a 5. Even my new Juggy wasn't enough to even pull out one win.
Then the next week, I rolled an average of about 8-9. I went 2-1, and took second. Only losing to a Metron-Xavier team. Throw in only rolling lower then a 4 ONCE for Deadpool's ridiculous regen all tournement. (He was on his last click anyway). And a 6 on a regen roll. (rolled a 6, prob. rerolled another 6).
But I would NEVER consider bad rolls as the reason for a consistent reason for not winning. (generalizing here) But, it seemed like bad rolls costed me in the first tournement. It all even out in the end though.
Best KO to date: WOS Mary Jane Watson w/ IG w/ Time Power and Soul Gem KOed HOT Odin.
I blame bad rolls a lot, but I can only think of a dozen times in the years since the games inception that a was the one and only thing that cost me a game; was the difference between winning and losing.
Nothing sucks more in this game than to have your opponent placed right where you want him/her, and then missing that one roll leaves you vulnerable.
I was playing the online beta (Virtual dice). I had a character set up where he could have destroyed my opponent's most important character by rolling a 6 or above. I missed 4 times in a row and my character died as a result.
I positioned my guys much better than my opponent, but luck still got the best of me. It's a legit excuse when you put yourself in a near impossible to lose situation, but roll impossibly low.
I was playing the online beta (Virtual dice). I had a character set up where he could have destroyed my opponent's most important character by rolling a 6 or above. I missed 4 times in a row and my character died as a result.
I positioned my guys much better than my opponent, but luck still got the best of me. It's a legit excuse when you put yourself in a near impossible to lose situation, but roll impossibly low.
But to say that it the reason you never win is ridiculous.
I have gone an entire game where I only hit once (it was a crit hit), and that got probbed (to a crit miss, of course), and everyone here can attest to have having luck from time to time, but to claim that you can never win because of your bad luck is absurd.
I do believe that luck can have a real factor on your games, I mean take my last sealed event. The only guy not to get a super rare in either of my packs out of 11 people. At the end of it all my team of uncommons and commons snagged first place, and by no means am I a good clix player. I rolled like a god that day and my opponents rolled terribly.
Twas the first time I ever came in first, or second for that matter.
But to say that it the reason you never win is ridiculous.
I have gone an entire game where I only hit once (it was a crit hit), and that got probbed (to a crit miss, of course), and everyone here can attest to have having luck from time to time, but to claim that you can never win because of your bad luck is absurd.
I find it more absurd that people are so intent on denying even the minutest possibility of bad luck being the primary factor for a person consistently losing. It is an uncommon, unlikely, rare occurrence but to deny its possibility is absurd.
Of course all the people claiming that they only lose because of bad luck can't possibly be, but some of them (some very few of them) are.
Well, I AM pretty awesome.
An understanding of the law of large numbers leads to a realization that what appear to be fantastic improbabilities are not remarkable at all but, merely to be expected.
Well, now that I know that Heroclix is ALL luck, I guess I don't even have to worry about team building or positioning. I'll just bring a team of all Moloids and roll some dice, because clearly nothing in the game matters except luck.
Seriously, Heroclix is a game of luck and skill. Saying it is all luck is completely ridiculous. Even more so than the people trying to argue that luck isn't a factor at all.
No, really, play your Moloids.
get you some Ocean's 11 remote contolled dice and play your Moloids and you'll beat every table-top Napoleon you come across.
From my experience I can say that bad luck does exist. Most likely bad luck hits when succesful hits are most needed and sittuation is most desperate. In other words when failed to hit roll means that there is no chances to win and odds are already stacked against you. Of course in my case sittuations like that are worst possible as its so frustrating.
I find it more absurd that people are so intent on denying even the minutest possibility of bad luck being the primary factor for a person consistently losing. It is an uncommon, unlikely, rare occurrence but to deny its possibility is absurd.
Of course all the people claiming that they only lose because of bad luck can't possibly be, but some of them (some very few of them) are.
If you go back and look at a previous post I made, you will find a definite condition that I only implied in my last post, but let me amend my statement:
The more games someone plays, the more ridiculous the claim that they only lose because of bad luck becomes.
If you only play 2 games a year, yes, it is a viable statement. If you play 2 games a week, it becomes a statistical anomaly.