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You guys do realize that the OP is just a troll right?
Now think about this. Me. chrisdosmil. Is calling someone else a troll. Think how bad of a troll you must be if I'M calling you a troll.
That's like a Biggest Loser contestant calling you fat.
It's like Vern Troyer calling you short.
It's like Ozzy Osbourne calling you unintelligible.
It's like Mel Gibson calling you crazy.
Food for thought.
Trolls: weak to acid and fire, immune to logic.
For what it's worth, I don't have any confidence in a productive discourse from the OP. His mind is made up, and he is entitled to his own opinions, no matter how misguided they may be. But I'll still respond to him, in the hopes that others reading this thread will approach it without a closed mind.
Quote : Originally Posted by necrodog
I don't know...you've been so reasonable and rational and dare I say helpful in a lot of your posts lately that I've started to wonder if the body snatchers got the real chrisdosmil and you're a pod person...
He has been suspiciously helpful. It's clearly all a front, as he's been recruited into the coruppt orange cabal. His proposal for an arbitrary and petty rule change was accepted and he will be inducted as an orange forthwith.
Quote : Originally Posted by Zelif
This---THIS---WILL be the end of HeroClix!!!!
If anybody can do it, Chris can!
Quote : Originally Posted by wintremute
Oranges make the game better. Purples strangle it and bring it down. Red Ring Thing, though...that rules all!
Them why is brown the best color?
Quote : Originally Posted by Realik
I am without anger or acusatation asking very questions. Any anger here is not coming from me. I don't even care about the errata that happened. I just want to know how the rules is this game are governed. It appears, that information is not really known.
I am not here shouting about a rule change. I am here asking how the rules are made and governed.
I find it hard to believe that this is an honest question rather than some misguided quest. You've blatantly ignored answers, misinterpreted answers, and latched onto a particular story and ignored half the facts.
Your signature only proves my point. You're making baseless and unprovable allegations, tossing around assumptions like facts. And then you're claiming that you're being "censored," when if you truly believe it, you clearly don't know what the word means. Asking for answers and getting an overwhelming majority that you disagree with isn't censorship.
Quote : Originally Posted by Zelif
Rolling on the floor laughing!!!!
This is an epic thread. One for the books.
Quote : Originally Posted by DemonRS
Justify to me why this thread is necessary and I'll keep it open..
Quote : Originally Posted by Girathon
It pissed me off all weekend rorschachparadox wasn't dead.
I totally support realik investigating this. The wild and baseless changes have to come from somewhere, so why not see if the Oranges are behind them? For example, in Europe, gg205's trait allowed Dr. Doom to automatically capture any opposing figure with the Fantastic Four keyword or Team Symbol. They were wrong to errata Dr. Doom. They changed that figure for no good reason, and when i post about it, they have often censored me.
I am without anger or acusatation asking very questions. Any anger here is not coming from me. I don't even care about the errata that happened. I just want to know how the rules is this game are governed. It appears, that information is not really known.
I am not here shouting about a rule change. I am here asking how the rules are made and governed.
It's the phrasing of your questions about these things that is the problem. After you sort throught the misspellings and sentence fragments, what you're left with is ignorance, accusation, and insults.
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Originally quoted by: Soxolas
"Friendship is not about what you were physically there for, It's about what you were mentally there for"
It's the phrasing of your questions about these things that is the problem. After you sort throught the misspellings and sentence fragments, what you're left with is ignorance, accusation, and insults.
Ohhhh. BURN!
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It did not start as a quest. Cause i don't use these figures. The unwillingness to respond accurately to me has me wondering what is going on. I don't think there is a conspiracy or anything like that. And i don't think anyone did something unethical in changing these rules. I just don't see the reason behind the change at all.
But most importantly, if i ask how the powers that be work, and who they are....i am meet with resistance and anger. That more than anything has me wondering...
As for my sig, they have dealted my posts about this several times. I said "often" cause they do not do it all the time. I am just confused why their is so much anger at people asking questions here....it's a get in line or GTFO feeling...and that is the reason i don;t feel like letting this go.
It did not start as a quest. Cause i don't use these figures. The unwillingness to respond accurately to me has me wondering what is going on. I don't think there is a conspiracy or anything like that. And i don't think anyone did something unethical in changing these rules. I just don't see the reason behind the change at all.
But most importantly, if i ask how the powers that be work, and who they are....i am meet with resistance and anger. That more than anything has me wondering...
The Powers that be (As far as rules are concerned)
TechGod -Rules Administrator
He has four rules deputies that can answer rules interaction questions and help to clarify misunderstandings. Their word is as good as TechGod's unless TechGod overrules their decision's. They don't generally make final decisions about rules and their interactions unless they have been discussed at length between the five of them. I would assume that even then there are higher ups at WizKids that have an even more "Final Word" on whether or not proposed rules interactions/alterations are fitting to the intent of a power/interaction.
The four rules deputies:
Quebbster
Vlad3theImpaler
Normalview
Harpua
(Also, Nbperp still has sway over rules and such being the former RA)
The reason that changes generally get made is because the general populace is having a hard time trying to figure out the timing of things. In the case of the most recent player's guide, most of the changes were directed at characters that had some kind of keyword gain/loss interaction. There were a ton of questions as to how/when they would trigger. The deputies and TechGod took all of those questions and interactions into their "Rules Cave" and had a lengthy discussion. They came up with a solution and presented their thoughts/findings to WizKids. They were approved and put into the new player's guide. That is how a HeroClix bill becomes Heroclix Law.
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Originally quoted by: Soxolas
"Friendship is not about what you were physically there for, It's about what you were mentally there for"
The Powers that be (As far as rules are concerned)
TechGod -Rules Administrator
He has four rules deputies :
Quebbster
Vlad3theImpaler
Normalview
Harpua
After reading this thread, I now visualize these guys sauntering into GenCon, like a corrupt sherrif and his gun-toting Deputies, ready to bully everyone around with corrupt and evil rule interpretations. And if they really don't like you, they won't shoot you, they'll just edit the Player's Guide on the spot so you lose....
Quote : Originally Posted by dairoka
I'm pretty sure Dragon has the Future keyword and Probability Control.
Quote : Originally Posted by Dragon
With the amount of times you are Ninja'd I swear you must have the Past Keyword
After reading this thread, I now visualize these guys sauntering into GenCon, like a corrupt sherrif and his gun-toting Deputies, ready to bully everyone around with corrupt and evil rule interpretations. And if they really don't like you, they won't shoot you, they'll just edit the Player's Guide on the spot so you lose....
All wearing orange prison jumpsuits with NECA stenciled on the back. And their Realms handle over their heart.
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The Powers that be (As far as rules are concerned)
TechGod -Rules Administrator
He has four rules deputies that can answer rules interaction questions and help to clarify misunderstandings. Their word is as good as TechGod's unless TechGod overrules their decision's. They don't generally make final decisions about rules and their interactions unless they have been discussed at length between the five of them. I would assume that even then there are higher ups at WizKids that have an even more "Final Word" on whether or not proposed rules interactions/alterations are fitting to the intent of a power/interaction.
The four rules deputies:
Quebbster
Vlad3theImpaler
Normalview
Harpua
(Also, Nbperp still has sway over rules and such being the former RA)
The reason that changes generally get made is because the general populace is having a hard time trying to figure out the timing of things. In the case of the most recent player's guide, most of the changes were directed at characters that had some kind of keyword gain/loss interaction. There were a ton of questions as to how/when they would trigger. The deputies and TechGod took all of those questions and interactions into their "Rules Cave" and had a lengthy discussion. They came up with a solution and presented their thoughts/findings to WizKids. They were approved and put into the new player's guide. That is how a HeroClix bill becomes Heroclix Law.
That is all i ever asked for. So now it appears to me that just made an illogical chance. But atleast i understand the process...and that's all i asked for lol
That is all i ever asked for. So now it appears to me that just made an illogical chance. But atleast i understand the process...and that's all i asked for lol
And a swipe at a perfectly fine process that was clearly explained ... for no reason at all.
And the trolling continues ...
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Quote : Originally Posted by rorschachparadox
Only problem is that Superclone is a unique member. The irrational members never get made uniques, which is why we see so many swarms of them.
That is all i ever asked for. So now it appears to me that just made an illogical chance. But atleast i understand the process...and that's all i asked for lol
After reading this thread, I now visualize these guys sauntering into GenCon, like a corrupt sherrif and his gun-toting Deputies, ready to bully everyone around with corrupt and evil rule interpretations. And if they really don't like you, they won't shoot you, they'll just edit the Player's Guide on the spot so you lose....
You laugh, but I had a custom copy of the PG at my venue for a while which added two golden rules.