Why? Blackheart doesn't require you to use one each of red and blue demons. Why should the team base?

While I realize it holds no rules weight, it doesn't make sense.

Where was it ruled that Blackheart could have two Red or Blue gargoyles?

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showth...=410302&page=2

I haven't seen anything on it since...

Hmm. I can honestly say that I don't like that. And in lieu of an official ruling, I would rule that you can't duplicate them in this case.

After we receive official confirmation I will reevaluate. But this might merit a house rule....and I loathe house rules.

I hear ya, but it is what it is. I would say that that ruling should be a precedent for a ruling on whether or not you can use 7 batmans (or even just 2 GL)

No, it's definitely precedent. You're right. Thanks for the link, too.

I just bumped it up as normalview said it was "noted" as unlikely to be the intent. With any luck (for my sanity lol) it'll be revisited now that it has an increasing relevance.

I guess if nothing else it provides a value add to the 3 Blackheart's I pulled and haven't been able to unload...

Harpua says it still stands. Also, I have 2 blackhearts despite so many People "wanting" him, money wants to trade for him

Actually wouldn't this from the tournament guide force you to bring it, and make it available for both players?

1.2.9 of the Tournament guide
Players using a mechanic that requires additional game pieces or information are required to bring the necessary pieces so that the
mechanic can be fairly played by both players in each match.

There is no such term in the rulebook as "side line" it is an extra mechanic created by team bases and therefore falls under the HCTR 1.2.9:

HCTR 1.2.9
When one players says "Only I can use my pieces" it is absolute BS.

I understand if they dont allow the MC action, but if they do then "you cant use my stuff is not a legal exception."

You are not actually forced to bring the pieces because the construction rules of the Team Bases makes it optional to play with them.

Boo. Oh well. I can live with it.

Honestly, I'm mostly amused at myself for having such a block against it. I hate highlander rules in all forms. I have no issue with the Team Base Green Lantern being played singly alongside one attached to the team base. But I don't think attaching two makes sense.

But you are PLAYING a mechanic that requires additional pieces. wether you choose to use said mechanic should not matter as the mechanic is on the character card. It should be the same as being required to bring smoke cloud tokens if you use a character that has smoke cloud. You may never intend to use it, but you still need to have the smoke cloud templates available so the it can be played fairly.

I guess my definition of using/playing and fairly are different than HCTR

IMO if the mechanic is available on your character card, you should have to bring the additional pieces so that it can be played fairly by both players.

Even in the cases of Promotion, AE, Revert, etc? You are never required to take an action. Should Reverts now be automatic and required?

You have a mechanic available to you, but the rule doesn't say "players who have a mechanic available", the rule says "players using a mechanic". If I'm not using that mechanic then I don't see where a reasonable reading of the rule requires me to provide the opportunity to you. I'm not sure that entry means I have to provide those pieces to you anyway, even if I have them: to play it fairly you need to be able to see them and any pertinent rules if I plan to use them, as opposed to trusting that I'm using them correctly.

No, and I wasn't trying to say they should be. A there is a ruling that you cannot use MC to replace a character correct? If I'm wrong about this please let me know. Cannot split merge/promote/AE there would be no need for you to bring the pieces as your opponent cannot perform these actions.

But Solo adventure is not a replace and is not covered via split/merge ruling. So it is possible for your opponent to use it aka smoke cloud.
I don't think this makes actions required, I think if the action is possible you would be required to have the pieces.