Stinger, Koshi, Ocelot, Shadowhawk IIC, Vulture, Cyclops, Templar, Warhammer IIC, and Uziel? ROCK!

Your getting a Templar. You would think this..:p

Better than my RotS....if its true...a Cyclopse...a freaking Cyclopes..:disappoin

Oh well, I'm excited anyway!;)

Dude, ever play Mechcommander II? (One of the better Battletech games out there, I think)

The Cyclops rocked. It was the biggest mech to have sensors, and it carried a crapload of weaponry. Not as much as an Atlas, true, but alot is alot.

The pre-lostech one sucked, but the new one's alright. Expect a typical ROTS Heavy. High attack and Command, as well as decent range and a good defense. It will take HOURS to kill and probably have hardened armor.

Note: I know none of this for sure.

No BR? dammit! I'm not buying too much of this set then. #### wizkids!

So we have Liao with all of their unique mechs that only they have got so far. The Spirit Cats are still the only ones with a Dasher II. The Shen Yi, Tian-zong, Ti-Ts'ang, and Yu Huang. Now there's the Jade Flacons with mechs like the GyrFalcon that have bird-like appearances. And the rumored Sea Fox's mech is listed a Tiburon, which means shark. Does this mean that Wizkids is trying to give factions even more uniqueness other than design paradigms? Maybe eventually, all factions will have a few mechs that only their faction has. I'd really like that. It makes the factions more unique and less slight variations of eachother.

And on a completely unrelated note: This lists the Stormhammers as getting a Vulture. Danggit! I like the SH, but the Vulture needs to go to the clans. I bet that the JF will probably get an LE of it, but why not give it to the SC, SW, or SF? (Other than the fact that some people are sick of the SC getting everything, the SW are rumored to not be in the set, and the SF are only a rumor at this point ;) )

The Cyclopes can kill Mediums, but a decent heavy will kill it. Oh well, the Wizies have messed with mechs load outs before, maybe it will be decent...

Btw, MechCommander II is not a good example IMO. The Atlas had tissue armor in that game, and well, we all know how false that is...

This info is probably 80% true. WK releases info to playtesting groups. If WK did not want this thread up, it would have been pulled by now.

The next set will suck big time. WK just does not get it. I may not know all the ways to fix MW, but I do know it is broken.

Whats wrong with what you see? I cant see anything "broken"

Don't buy any, then. Leaves more for the rest of us. ;)

SWEET! SC Warhammer IIC? That would be a dream.. though.. I hope they get a Gnome.. favorite BA.

Hope the Sylph's get some decent range.. the only real 'flying' BA should have some decent distance over the others.

Yeah, a Gnome with 6 attack like the purifier! :p

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Warzog's speculation list is spot on, around 80% of the time IMO.

So, i'm liking what i'm seeing! :D

SC's Rumored to get the LE Vulture.

Still stormhammer Vulture has got to be fairly Impressive. Even with the drop in defenses (if it's true) which is going to seriously effect the game, but I am really really looking forward to this set.

The Sylth battle armor is actually good news as it will be a fairly cheap way to get rid of artillery. Even if it dosn't have speed mode foot and can't capture.

The cyclops for all intended purpose's is a decent mech. It dosn't pack alot of firepower, however, most of it's mass is tied up in being above average speed as well as in CBT fiction a good command mech. One that could rain fire from afar but stay out of the frantics of battle while still giving orders

The two varients are in 3025 tech
CP-10-Q
4/6
17 tons armor, max armor config.
3 med lasers
2 lrm 10's
SRM4 + ammo
14 sinks

CP-10-Z
4/6
10 tons armor
1 ac20 + ammo
1 lrm10 + ammo
2 meds
SRM4
12 heat sinks.

In all proof I find it highly likly that ROTS if anyone would get a CP. And in classic Btech terms the CP is a feared mech. Not as feared as some but still a 90 ton assaultmech. I play over at solris7.org and the current champions pilot dual CP's and trust me they can lay down the hurt.

In the current area we are now in, i expect the CP to have undergone massive restructuring as well as keeping most of it's original theme. A command and control mech.

As long as they do not drop a mechs defense below 18 I will be happy. Dropping a mechs defense below 18 really isn't pratical as they can be easily taken out with the simplest of hoverbikes or peasants. *shrug*

-BA

guys, ever play mw4 mercs? ever fight jeffer roshak? or that one you get as a BONDSB**CH in the mad cat MK 2, she does nothing BUT jump on your head! the only way to stop her is to tell your whole lance to attack her, while you hit her in the torso w/ a heavy gauss so she calls you a freebirth. i have petitioned wk for 8 months to give ss and sh a templar, as you can see the ss templar makes me happy (now all the bums got to do is add in a fafnir and i will buy 51% of their stock) the ss uziel rocks, the templar is 75 tons, has 2 light (16 inch range) gauss and 2 x pulse lasers (like 5 laser w/ pulse and takes 2 heat for using it) all but 2 mechs (nons) have jj and one last thing, i told wk to make a descendant of jeffer (who had a loki that you bash when he says "i will have you as my bondsman, free... CAN'T EJECT! D*** LOKI, I TOLD H..." *BOOM* )

There is the CP 11-A Cyclops from 3050:

10 tons armor
1 Gauss
1 LRM 10
1 SRM 4
2 Medium lasers

There is also a C3 version of this model.