I know MadTitanFan and if he can't make a team work, that's good enough for me to make them the worst.

So Mike, Infinity Watch...the worst or not (even with the might Soul World)?

Well if we wanna use RS, what is the problem they have and can another team fix it?

their main obstacles are lack of a dedicated search card, and understatted set of 5 drops. thats aside from their preference for ongoing plot twists but lacking in ongoing support. And there is the bizarro ray route. neither of wich are deemed competition status.

Yea.. i think the worst team up so far to me... which you can get mad.. im sored of new... is just plan old X-men... its a stupid beat down deck... i hate those!

I hate single-minded beatdown as well, but that doesn't make them the WORST team. Them and F4 are a bit dissapointing in their singlemindedness..at first. Look deeper. There are a few aces up your sleeve in those teams to be the control player as well.

What is everyone's opinion about Underworld? I think, especially after Marvel Team-up, they'll be a force to be reckoned with, at least tier 1.5 if done right. Thoughts?

Lets not go there with Bizzaro ray. I think teaming up RS with Villans could be decent. At least that way you have Black Adam and Freeze on 5 and the old school Lex on 6. With No Hope in the deck, Lex can cause breakthrough if you have evens. I think Two Face on 7 would be decent as well. Coercion is a great teamup for multiple teamups

I think the underworld decks ofter team up will be bomb core! i like their strategy, and the whole keeping people in Ko'd pile... it rocks! but, i would have one, tell me if youve made one yet... just wondering

I think syndicate is the worst team in vs.

The stuff they got to help just made them even more of a mess.

Sindicate rush is completely insane in modern. A golden age approach allows for the addition of goblin glider, electro, vermin, tombstone, and basilisk on top of the alrerady great rush lineup the MTU set handed them. In a build with few characters beyond 2-3 in cost, and loaded with 1-2 cost plot twists and loations, Lizard is the balls. Curve Syndicate does need something to help stabilize the curve though. but worst ever? i'm not inclined to agree.

Regarding revenge squad, wild pack REALLY helped them round out some ongoing love, and mobilize is GOLD. in fact with mobilize available, i dont know if there really IS a worst team anymore. Barring the searcher, and looking only at characters, i think i'm tempted to call out New Gods as the worst. (or at the very least, the least played.)

EDIT i realise this thread does not belong in the strategy and tactics thread. Could a mod please move this to general discussion?

thanks.

Doom.

I realise that Doom himself is really powerful, and has won many many tournaments, but the affiliation is poo. Maybe not the worst, but as a mono team, I've never made anything I've been completely happy with.

Revenge Squad is already the nuts. When Ruin and the 5-drop Lex become available, it'll become the dogs nuts (British expression).

And whats wrong with Revenge Pact as a semi-tutor?

The only reason that New Gods could be considered the "worst team in Vs" is because of no love. They have one of the best Army 1drops in the game. They have the Source. They even have a quazie<sp?> alternate win with The Prophecy Fulfilled.

What this team lacks is a structured curve that has the stats to contend with every other team. I build a deck with them that played well, and hit every deop that I wanted to. The reason that I lost with the deck almost every game was the fact that it "needs" support from plot twists.

This is a team for team-ups, and with the New Teen Titans and Legionnaires cosmic love, I could see them being a tier 2 deck at least. I am currently working on a Terror Incognita/Prophecy deck based around Mark MoonRider/Mobius Chair and Terror.

Just my opinion,
DoomStat

I totally agree with Doomstat where NG are concerned. I used to play a lot of NG team-up decks mostly because I loved the Source. I also enjoyed flipping Prophecy Fullfilled. That card won me a surprising number of games.

Unfortunately, the bar has been raised. It used to be you could play some understatted characters for tricks like the Source, character tutors like The Exchange, etc. But since most other teams have gotten more love, there are very few teams left that NG can go head-to-head with. And that's just wrong!

Darkseid's Elite used to be the same (worse even) before the Legion set. Revenge Squad will definitely be out of the basement once World's Finest comes out. And Crime Lords got just enough love out of Marvel Team-up to pull ahead of New Gods.

Hopefully this set will throw a little love at the NGs. A dual-affiliated Barda (Birds of Prey/NG) seems like a no-brainer. Her original card was awful anyway.

Also, Countdown seems to be featuring some pretty heavy NG content in the comics. Maybe we'll see a Countdown set some day where this deserving team can be refeatured. They ought to be a powerhouse. I really look forward to the day when I can start Sourcing my opponents again.

Psh. Negative Zone is the worst.

What about Deathstroke? Did you forget about that team?

I love the revenge squad and have a Team-up deck with JLI that usually has a row full of Ongoings and uses Satanus on six to steal your board using safety in numbers. Martian Manhunter REALLLLLY fixes R.S.'s black hole at 5...

oh and Atomic Skull is great in this deck as well - and since Braniac 6 drop came out in Legions I'be got another option at 6... I hear Free stuns are good.