Not today, satan.

Since it's a blanket change over the entire figure line I'd say it's a moot point.

Rather, look at it as a neutral change as if all figures were point costed to have Willpower from day one.

But then what about characters that have been costed for Indomitable?

I would be pleased if WizKidz would at least address the issue.

I don't care what their policy is, you don't get to sweep the pieces from the board and say the game has fundamentally changed without some serious forethought to at least what it means to the set that's about to be released.

Why should we buy a set that wasn't designed with this sweeping change taken into consideration.

It is the very definition of the LEAST they can do.

Well, if Indominable grants Willpower it ends up kinda being the same thing. I get the differences, but we have only seen one of WizKids rule change articles, there will be more of these to come where hopefully these issues will be addressed.

Anyways, there are already a bunch of threads on this topic in General Forums, I don't want to derail Baron's Evidence Thread.

It has been stated in many places, and many times, that this is their "new normal". Why would they only do it for one set and then not do it the next?

So I guess what you're "not buying" is HEROCLIX, son.

indomitable no longer grants willpower

it doesn't do anything anymore

this might be the last set i buy into since i don't like the rule changes that WW80 will bring.

Since the figures previewed so far from this set don't have the indom. symbol, can we assume they were costed for 2020 rules?

I kind of want to know what set begins the indom. symbol as the new standard symbol.

Guessing there's no answer just yet.

Should be the WW80 set. But who knows these days.

I cancelled my preorders for Future Foundation.
Also my wife was really looking forward to Wonder Woman so I kept my mouth shut but she just independently asked if I could call the comic store and cancel her preorder too.

It's just too big of a headache to make adjustments this drastic... With this news the brand trust is gone. Were not having fun with it anymore so were just gonna take a break from spending money on things that don't bring us joy. It's super disappointing its come to this...

Same here. I LOVE the Fantastic Four, my favorite comic, but l had to cancel my pre-order for the Future Foundation. I just won't enjoy the game anymore, that simple. Wizkids killed it.

But the figure still gets the benefit of Indominable (being able to have an action every turn without pushing damage), which was the point I was trying to make.

For years you read about players complaining about power creep and how figures from older sets are no longer able to hold their own, and now WizKids finally does something to breathe new life into the bulk % of older figs and people still aren't happy.

How many Realmsers initially complained about how Indominable was being given out like candy...? Where are those cries now...?

WizKids are damned if they do, damned if they don't.

So where are their guidelines to recost all the old figures with Indom?

We haven't got all of WizKids new rules articles yet, stay tuned. The may certainly address this in a future article.

Well if they want anyone to not cancel their pre-orders of this set they might want to put a wiggle on and address it.

......Sorry, lets just say "Friction" in another thread is putting me a bit on edge.