Arrogance will eventually be your downfall... :)

Hope to read details of thr match soon.

Chris

I posted a what i think is acurate and detialed description of the battle in the hk forum.

Perhaps, 4-LOM (Star Wars handle? Honestly? How original) it is the unusual rules of your venue which allow you such dominance. Prove that you are not a puling spheroid coward and play a match by the Wizkids rules (otherwise known as the rules for adults). If you are actually a child, disregard this post, as it applies only to those who wish to play by the rules.

Seyla, surat.

Well since i did not gain any advantage from the rules, both my piloted raiders died without firing a shot. I dont see how i can prove it any better. The next battle i lay down against the falcons i will follow strickt wizkids rules. And i honestly beleive that if i would have ran vixens with IT instead of raiders i would have actually done a little better seeing as the raiders were totaly obliterated. I will follow the rules and shut you up, kurita beat falcons only way possible is the house rules that everyone can use and that played little to no factor in the game were to blame.

My tanks and shiro did all the work, and they all followed wizkids rules.

4-lom has been my handle for about 14 years yes its from starwars but its sort of become me, i dont plan on changing it.

And i am not a child, although many people would argue i am dispite my age.

While the loss still stings, I feel good knowing that I gave 4-LOM his best fight against CJF that he has ever had. Considering that I have only played CJF against him twice and that I ran my arty less effectively that I could have, I think that next time it will be me posting the victory report. Our 'house' rules really didn't play a major factor in the game at all and I don't feel that they gave 4-LOM an unfair advantage. The Raiders, even piloted, are still light 'mechs and they died as such since very few lights can survive our Loki's full barrage.

Echoing what 4-LOM said on the Kurita thread it was definitely one of the most fun games that I have played. Don't worry my fellow warriors, the surat snakes will writhe beneath our talons soon enough.

Cheers,:)

Goreb

Well I was reading Masters of War and I guess its official;

The Jade Hawk is being produced by Clan Jade Falcon. In fact its the only "New design" that in the entire book! All the other 'Mech designs are 3067 or earlier stuff.

So I wonder, what stats would you expect from a CJF Jade Hawk?

I personally have a special place in my heart for Blitz when it comes to and what I think a CJF Jade Hawk should be. However seeing as we have access to Blitz at a relatively cheap price I would imagine something that could go toe to toe with our Hellbringer and leave the match under it's own power where as the Hellbringer would need a body bag. That is my hope anyway, but I am not going to hold my breath... it make my head feel all tingly when I do.

I would say the stats for the Jade Hawk might look like a cross between all of 'em.

10 AT
20 DV
10 MV
10" Ballistic Range

I don't think the clan version would have CC, might have energy weapon instead. 4 vent.

Just a guess.

I'm not going to hold my breath either when it comes to a CJF Common Jade Hawk. Still the fluff is pretty open that the Jade Hawk would be a common design for various factions, due to the actions of a CJF tech and Clan Sea Fox.

Lets dream for a sec of another booster series like Wolf Strike and that the Jade Hawk was one of the commons. That would mean 6 Jade Hawks. I could see 2 for CJF, and 4 for other factions.

For Stats, I could see...
1)
Vent 4, 270 degree arc, good heat dial(TSM, plus no heat effects for 1st 2 clicks)
Primary Melee 1 target 0/0
Secondary Ballistic 3 targets 0/10

Primary Damage: 4(Rapid Strike)
Secondary Damage: 5 Armor Piercing
Movement: 10 Jump Jets
Attack: 10
Defense 21(heavy Armor)

Cost: 210ish
(represents a Mech with Overcharger, MASC, Streak SRM 6s, Claws)


2)
Vent 4 270 degree arc, again good heat dial.
Primary Damage 2 targets 0/12
Secondary Damage 2 targets 0/8

Primary damage: 4
Secondary Damage: 4
Movement: 10 Jump Jets
Attack: 10
Defense: 21 Reactive Armor
Cost: 230ish
(Represents a Mech with Overcharger, MASC, Standard SRM 6s, 2 ER LL.)

Those are some pretty good stats Van.

IF we see a CJF Jade Hawk I just want to see it done right.

Exactly how I would envision it except possibly swapping the Rapid Strike for Brawling although RS seems to be a better fit. This 'mech would certainly fill the H-to-H niche in our heavy line up. Great work vanguardlv.

Cheers,:)

Goreb

Got a question for 4-LOM:

Have you played against RD and how did it go?

I ask because they are my secondary faction, they dont have a active thread anymore and because i seem to do good enough with them against our local HK player.

From personal experience, when engaging the Bears, it is important to commit to a kill rather than pick away at several opponents. Do not allow them to build a rage. Turn your big guns on something and Salvage it or kill it. You may even wish to hit them hard and attempt a Capture, as their rage does not affect their defensive numbers.

Agreed. As one who plays RD from time to time, letting your opponent focus is exactly what you don't want to happen. If the RD player is decent, they will pin down your assets with their assortment of fast basers(CBA, Sylph, Kite), and proceed to tear apart your units. A counter is to in turn tie up or destroy their fast baser assets.