The future starts now...

http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstor...micstories.869

Nice to see Marvel has a sense of humor...

Stephen Colbert.


Marvel is runned by a buch of [enter expletive]...lol.

Like John Stewart or Frank Castle.

All I can picture is Colbert in Cap's outfit kicking some badguy's butt and yelling "AND THAT"S THE WORD!!"

http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.880


Like I said... That's the Word!

Um, no. The PRESENT of this country was shaped and formed by the 60's generation. The WWII generation had their biggest influence up until the late 80's.

This, ladies and gentlemen, is exactly why I quit reading comics. :disappoin


Use to be, you could purchase a comic and get a good story. Now, you get one or two things. A good story that is atleast six comics long, or a bad soap opera. Unfortunately, the second of the two options is the most likely. I mean come on. Example - Death of Captian Marvel was a great book, but 20ish years later; lets bring him back to life. Killing off the Green Goblin was a mile stone of Spider-Man comics, but 20 years later, oh, he never died??? It has come to the point were the books are a disappointment just because you know in a few years the writers will undo everything that has been done. Reading today's comics is like watching the Dallas season where Bobby was killed over and over expecting a different ending, only to find out that no it was still but a dream.

I know, comics of the past had their problems, but bad writing that could just be swpt under the rug was not one of the common ones. For that matter, writers could finish a story then, now it just goes on and on and on. One of my favorite stories was the original Marvel Secret Wars. Twelve issues, one year later; the story was told and ended. What do we have today, Civil War which is seven issues; not counting all the side issues; and never does really resolve.

Sorry to rant, but I just hate seeing what has become of comics. Now days, I only purchase the older issues of Marvel from before the mid 90's, rather then waste my money on a story that I know will just be undone later.

For those who don't get why Cap's death is a blow.

Its not a comic book character's death, but the arrogance of the EIC at Marvel to say, "Steve Rogers/Cap is out of touch with modern America. That his values don't represent the values of current America...etc."

A true hero isn't a person who does something for fame or glory. They do it

A: Because its the right thing to do

and

B: Hope to inspire others to do the same.

If you want to see an actual representation of what Cap and The Greatest Generation represent, look no further than the following:

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As the inscription says on the Arizona Memorial:

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"To the Memory of the Gallant Men here entombed and their shipmates who gave their lives in action on December 7 1941 on the USS Arizona."

I had the honor to go to the Arizona for the first time with a man who served at Pearl Harbor, assigned mere weeks after the attacks. The wrecks were still in the water, some still smoldering. To stand at that memorial with a man who I didn't meet until literally hours before, and to know that he lost friends, companions, and family during the war; I was moved to tears. To have a person who was from that time help me understand and feel what Americans were feeling and experiencing at that time was is what made them the Greatest Generation.

My Grandfather, who passed 20 years ago, was from that generation as well. He didn't wait for a draft, he signed up days after Pearl Harbor. Because it was the right thing to do.

They are the Greatest Generation for the simple fact that 60+ years later, they inspire us to be better than we are. That currently, men and now women, answer the call to defend this nation. That we will not surrender. We will not hide, and we will not yield. If you cannot see how that Generation inspired our generation into action, need I remind you:

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That Generation also led American OUT of the Great Depression. As the men went off to war, women went to work in the factories. They riveted the machines together, doing work that would take an additional generation for our society to accept women doing.

A generation isn't just defined by great successes like the microcomputer or landing a man on the moon (the space program, which was started, if I'm not mistaken, just after WWII, I guess you'd have to give the Greatest Generation credit for at least laying the groundwork to get us there) but how that generation faces and overcomes adversity.

I think the verdict is still out on the current generation, but so far? We certainly haven't overcame much other than to snipe at each other and find whoever is at fault in any given situation. We're defined by reality TV, pop culture contests, and 24 hour-a-day gossip channels. Our sports heroes have to be considered flawed with asteriks next to their names.

What's the point of all this? Steve belonged to the generation that went to war and won, that invented this thing we call television, and brought a nation back from abject poverty. And to say that a person of that generation isn't in touch with the current values and ideals of America is a complete condemnation of the current values and ideals of this generation.

There is NO rebutal. Close the thread, Frontman wins....


WOW

I don't mean to be trollish, but it was Keynesian economics and not the plucky American worker that pulled the US out of the Depression. And sad was the woman who wanted to keep her job and newfound freedoms after Johnny came marching home. That's what inspired Friedan and the second wave feminists. They weren't radical bra-burners - they were women who wanted to work.

The US space program was created primarily through the efforts of the captured Germans that the "Greatest Generation" was fighting against. When Berlin fell, there was the equivalent of a scientist cattle drive, as guys who'd been working on the V1 and V2 programs ran like heck towards the American and British lines. There's a reason why all the guys in white coats that you see in "The Right Stuff" are speaking with German accents.

Sure, 21st century America looks like a collection of overly litigious, bickering children. The gap between rich and poor is the widest it's been since the age of the plutocrats. And the melting pot doesn't appear to be melting with the same consistency that it once did. But the current US population is better educated, wealthier (on the whole), healthier (again, on the whole - millions still go without health care, but that's another argument), and more diverse than ever before. Entire segments of the population - gays, women, blacks, Hispanics - can enjoy more of their constitutionally promised freedoms than ever before (of course, there's always room to grow). The "greatest generation" fought like crazy against the measures that enshrined those freedoms in law - until the death of a president shamed them into acting (none of LBJ's civil rights legislation would have passed under Kennedy).

Like I said, I didn't respond to your post to engage in any kind of flame war. But I think people have, for much of recorded history, been far too hasty to ascribe excessive virtue to the generations of their elders, while finding little to praise about their own. It's "good old days" reminiscing of the highest order. And it does a disservice to the people of any age who believe that "America" is one of those concepts that transcends generational and political bounds. If you want to imagine Captain America as a hero that embodies that concept, then it should apply to all times, not just the era that created him.

hail,

You're absolutely right. We have come light years in certain areas compared to the 40s/50s; and there was a very good reason those German scientists headed to the UK/US over going towards Moscow, but to say that the generation that invented the internet and has reality television can't compare, at least in my opinion, to what America used to be. Did that generation have its faults? Absolutely. But as I see it, they seemed to work together far more than we ever do in our society.

Now, off to answer another "Reported post" email.



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