You mean you didn't Like R Igirl in there?

Ah yes I had forgotton about the new rules nerfing MOE so badly! We have a house-rule that nixes that carp. Hell MOE is bad enough as it is and even worse if you can't use CCE, Flurry, etc..

Definitely some nice adjustments there, and adding some Synister Syndicates and a Wild Card Ultron will help your effectiveness. I like Black Queen and she fits will with your theme. I still think some perplex could do you a lot of good with your damage and attack values, and could especially give a TKed Whirlwind some serious oomph.

I definitely like the Whitney Frost addition. She's one of my favorite pieces in the game.

Nonetheless, the team looks much better imo, and the theme is great. I'll definitely be interested in hearing how it performs in a tourney environment.

Good luck!

hey ando, do you have time to go back and evaluate mine? it is on pg 6. 300 pt marvel team. thanks

According to my Team-builder you're only at 289 points.

Sorry I missed reviewing this team. It looks pretty solid. Interesting that you have the two LE's in there and with U Wasp that's 3 figures with a 19+ defense. Tough indeed. You don't have very good attack values and without any perplex to help you out, facing a team with R invisible girl or similarly high defenses could give you fits. With the 50 point max restriction, I think there's about a 60% chance you'll face at least one team with a R Igirl. That said, I would take Moon Knight out and replace him with another hooker and maybe an E Quicksilver.

That would give you:

2 X E Con Artist 24
E Black Panther 36
V Paramedic 12
V Avalanche 32
V Pyro 42
U Wasp 44
LE Antman 43
LE Yellowjacket 41
E Quicksilver 41

2 Con Artists can make a guy like E Quicksilver deadly in a hurry with that flurry of blows. Personally, I would rather have an E Jean grey than LE Antman. She can seriously up your first-strike capability which I feel is important.

Wasp will likely Taxi around Pyro and it would be nice to have Jean Grey able to TK up AValanche for either barrier or Pulse Wave as needed and Quicksilver to drop a perplexed damage flurry of blows.

Obviously you could set-up avalanche and your hookers a few spaces away for him to pulse-wave and get your perplex on the board in the first round.

Let me know what you think.

Yes. Yes they might.

Well since your team is all rookies except GA, I don't see how we could fit in a medic without either dropping a piece or d/ging GA to Rookie. I don't want to give up Green Arrow, and I like your other pieces so what's a guy to do?

We could drop Live Wire and put in a Rookie Easy Co medic for 9 points, and that gives us 14 points to work with.

We could then upgrade Hawk to Experienced which gives you the Titans TA, an extra click, and slightly better stats.

The Titans TA could be very handy: Round 1 Cosmic boy TKs Deathstroke to a rooftop. Round 2 push Cosmic boy and TK Green Arrow to another rooftop or even next to Deathstroke depending on where you've placed your objects or have hindering terrain available to hide in. Also in round 2 we have Hawk transfer a click a-la Titans TA back to Cosmic boy and to get-rid of his activation click. Round 3 they both rest. Round 4 you have an activated Hawk ready to be TKed or taxiied into action. You may want to play-test it and see how it works, but it can be highly effective. The choice is yours.

Other than that I think you've put together a very nice team and I'll be interested in hearing what you decide to do and how it works out.

Good luck!

thanks for the help Ando,

I was actually thinking of using vet-doom and a psylocke to do some enhanced EE R/S. good team, I will playtest it against cap's team.

thanks.


rach

Hey Ando! I need some serious help for an upcoming Tournament. It is Marvel 400-No dupes-no medics-only 1 wildcard-no pieces under 40 points. I've made a number of teams, here's one I think would be fun to play. I have to admit, I'm sick of coming in second (or worse!), I NEED to win my first Tournament! I'd really appreciate your input.

Ultron Exp-Devastating attack and steady damage plus wildcard.

Mr. Fantastic Exp- Plasticity for tie-up, Invulnerability and Outwit, plus healing for Ultron through FF TA.

Doc Ock Vet-Willpower, Perplex, LC, attack value.

Psylocke Vet- Enhancement, Stealth, BCF, healing for Ultron through X-Men TA.

Sersi Unique-Free Move, TK, MC, Outwit.

Sersi can fling whomever out I need, probably Mr. Fantastic to tie up my opponent's big guns. Ultron keeps Psylocke with him for 4 damage or Enhanced EE attacks. Doc Ock is support with his Perplex and he can "de-stealth" people for me.

5 figures is probably too low, but all my favorite support pieces are under 40! Any help would be great, thanx for looking!

Playtesting MY team against Cap's eh?

Well Cap builds 'em pretty solid. I'll be interested in hearing how the play-test goes.

I think for the points you're better-off going with the E Ultron and a TKer over Doom and R&S. Sure you'll get your run and shoot, but Doom has a lot of points wrapped up in those defensive powers of his, and for the points, the ULtron / TK combo is going to give you a better chance of getting the drop on your opponent. In a game like this with no medics or defensive powers, I think first strike capability is going to be KEY.

Mark my words: whoever gets the first big hit in will probably win. Some fancy X-men TA usage can help in this area, but if Doom were to somehow get the drop on Ultron for 4+ clix of damage, you're going to be in trouble right there....

Good luck and let me know how the playtesting goes. Also let me know what kind of team Cap built for you. I'm always interested in hearing what strategy/tactics he comes up with for the given situation.

peace out,

~A

Mr. Fantastic is tough to play. Maybe you like him or maybe you've used him extensively and have a good handle on him, but in a Marvel only tournament that you really want to win, I think there are better options than Mr. Fan. Love the guy and all, but let's save him for those who would rather win fellowship.

E Ultron carrying around psylocke is a great combo. Solid. We might look at taking more advantage of Ultron's TA later...

V Doc Oc: Really a great piece. Cool villain. He has 3 clix of Perplex and then becomes a class-A 'yoinker'. Very handy in Marvel tournaments.

Sersi: Good piece, but why not Moondragon? That Avengers TA is nice, but Baldy has a better DV, Super Senses, 10 range (vs. an 8), and does 2 dmg with Psychic blast with some regen to boot. Given the choice I personally would go with Moondragon if you have her and let's assume you do.

So we take out Fantastic and sub in Moondragon and we have 321 points. E Kraven is a good outwitter and can also borrow Ultron's awesome attack. He's 72 points which gives us 393 points, and a fairly solid team:

E Ultron 139
E Kraven 72
V Doctor Octopus 66
V Psylocke 45
U Moondragon 71
293 total

Still only 5 pieces but with your opponent's defense outwitty by Kraven, Ultron could be perplexed and enhanced dishing out 5 clix. Then Kraven, borrowing Ultron's AV and enhanced by Psylocke can dish out 5 of his own (granted only at a range of four but waddya want?). You can of course push Ultron and trade a click back from Psylocke. It's a pretty solid team and could win a tourney with some good skills and a little luck, but honestly I think we can do better...

Here's another Idea: Since nobody is going to have a medic, why don't we bring V Jean Grey? I mean unless they bring her too (and many will), you'll have a pretty distinct advantage. Your opponent will have to come to you. He'll have to try to knock V Jean grey for a click or two. If we take out Doc Oc and Moondragon. Sub Jean Grey for Moony and Mystique for the doctor, we can add Gambit. Now Gambit is a nice piece for this team. He gets perplex,EE, then RCE, and starts with a nice 17 defense and Stealth on his first four clix. AFter that he's a click sponge for ULtron or Jean Grey, but set him up on the other side of ULtron and Psylocke and he can either do 4-5 clix of damage or an enhanced EE.

Here's option number two, and possibly a tourney winner:

E Ultron 139
E Kraven 72
V Jean Grey 50
V Psylocke 45
E Mystique 43
V Gambit 51

One more figure to round out your moves, support, outwit, good attack values, Some enhanced EE threats, good range... four out of six of your pieces can trade clix... this one looks very tight imo.

Let me know what you think and good luck!

Hey ando can u review my team, it is a 300pt all marvel team.
vet kraven
unique adam warlock
vet hand ninja with range
vet mandroid armor
exp bullseye
exp beast
vet AIM medic
thats my team what are your suggestions on it, how can it be.

Oh yeah, i should tell you my basic strategy. I use kraven and warlock as a team. Warlock flies kraven into terrian so he is in stealth. My mandroid uses tk to tk my ninja into stealth or just to tk bullseye to get a shot at any enemies approaching. Then i have beast get tked only wen the other guy is gettin to close. I know a vet mandroid may seem like a waste but i rather use the vet as a taxi and wen it comes down to it as an attacker. I like to have figs that serve man purposes thats why im using a vet aim medic. it all adds up to a perfect 300.

I think this team looks very good. I could change this or that, but I see no glaring weaknesses and there is certainly a good portion of TA synergy and some very solid pieces. I think this team is a winner. I think keeping beast in the back to utilize his perplex until he's in striking distance is a good plan. Good luck and let me know how it goes.

Thanks for reviewing my team, this is going to be my first constructed tourney next week and this is the team im going to use. I was just worried if it was okay since this is basically my first team im using at a tourney. I wasnt sure if it was strong enough. So thanks for looking it over

Hey, Ando, just got back from the tournament. Well, I went with my original team and I won second, which was the LE Parademon Warrior, Valinus. I sweeped my first match, lost by 45 points in my second match, and sweeped the third match. Anyway, I didn't really care about winning tonight, but I did anyway so I'm happy.

Nice work matey! So ye made 'em swab the deck did ye?

Really I thought your original team was very nice. Throwing in a medic and taking out Live Wire would have hindered your mobility to go smash the other guy's medic. I like seeing teams that don't have medics. I know they're playing for fun and aren't going to #####foot around.

Congratulations on your win.

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