And, yeah, when I played Cosmo back-to-back games I don't recall huge swaths of my solo interactions with the opponents.

Also, it's classic mafia (ERS) to claim info gather and then ask a teammate (Raven) to back you up.

Alternatively, ERS was telling the truth, couldn't target TBB due to being lost in the tunnels (hitting someone else) and Raven is just lying and really has a super lawyer power. Cult? Maybe.

I also dislike Raven's claim of misdirecting me. I'm town. Most players seem to believe I'm town. I'm a vet. I was already against Bob, in general. Let me make my own decisions. They're at least as valid as his less informed decisions given he doesn't actually know my power set.

Yeah. It's a valid reason for her to be immune to vamps if Raven really is LocknLoad. Cmd fits too.

It's the targets, the writeups and behavior I can't quiet put my finger on that's making me vote for Raven.

The power set is dead on.

Lock appeared pretty often in the game 7 writeups when Raven/Lock wasn't in the game. Virgil showed pretty extensively in...game 3 iirc.

I'd think an Antispawn or Jester player would have pushed to help Raven at this point.



I'd like to go over Raven's theory on Roy. That's pretty good thinking and even if Raven's mafia, that may be a lead worth pursuing.

Ugh.

Night two was...weird.

Turd should have been jailkept and Turd and TBB should have been busdriven (not my standard ability).

Rokk targets TBB, kills Turd. The misdirection makes sense but Turd should have been protected from death. I asked Stranger if I actually jailkept TBB due to the busdrive and he said something vague about the tunnels being easy to hide in unless whoever's looking has a flashlight. TBB is a flashlight. If TBB targeted Rokk, it would explain why his kill went through.

But Raven would have been misdirected to Turd so....

My point, though, is that why would he have that as a passive power if it's due to someone "returned from the dead" by the Lady in Green? He, himself, pointed out Lock wanders around unafraid because of that power so why is Jester saving her?

Which theory? The money or the green posting because the money is just jumping on other peoples' idea trains.

It gets more confusing: my character was obviously not expecting to come across TB47 in the dark.

If TB47 was a MD then he shouldn't have been able to MD me into killing him due to the JK...unless the JK hit someone else.

So we are now talking a missed JK and a CMD'er who CMD'ed a MD'er into targeting me and the random MD has me target that same MD'er.

Busdriver clears that up but then why haven't we seen more uses of the busdriver (such as swapping my targets or making their kills easier if Mafia and a Town BD might have cleared up the N2 confusion).

Jester would be the reason for the passive ability. Remember, Lock was kidnapped by vampires on day one. It was always Stranger's intention to have Jester save Lock from them. That's all flavor.

Is it flavor that comes with a passive power for a PC? Or just the usual previous game winners showing up to drive the storyline?

The vamp that killed Bob/Bizmark had given him a part he needed, earlier. Roy gave Bob a part he needed earlier. Ergo, Roy may be a vampire.

I guess I'm hung up on The Lady in Green being a PC and she's the one that brought back Jester.

I'd considered that but didn't Bob say he received a circuit board while the vamp said he had previously delivered Bob a blood pump? I may be getting that mixed some. I just recall it being a case of the number of found parts not matching Bob's story so I wondered how much he was deceiving on that vs how much was story.

It's been bothering me that ERS claimed power cop (an ability mafias tend to have) but his info is all wrong. Why would he make up stuff? Just realized stupid mafia guy was lost in the tunnels.

1) TB47 really was a misdirector. I believe my block went through on him but my protection didn't.

2) Raven's not a super lawyer. Grinner is. Even if Raven was mafia, it stands to reason he would back his teammate's play. There were obvious issues with TBB getting targeted and we all know mafias have power cops. Wouldn't have hurt Raven to agree with ERS, even if ERS got lynched. He didn't, though, which implies Raven's not mafia only because I know ERS couldn't have targeted Raven on night one. The discrepancy makes more sense if caused by actual power copping and misdirection than if it was caused by two teammates tripping over each other to tell conflicting lies.

3) On Day Three, Bob claimed to have received the wiring board from Roy, his first part. On Night Three, Rokk gives Bob the blood pump and Bob asks a vampire if he's got ANOTHER part for him. The only player who previously given Bob anything is Roy, meaning Roy has to be a vampire.

I'm thinking change vote, Roy

Remove vote

Night Four, Bob asks the vamp if he has something else like the synthetic heart he gave him.

Maybe Bob messed up, told us the wrong thing and Roy is the vamp. Maybe Bob was lying (by omission) and he got the heart and the board that night.

Not a perfect lead.

If your block went through how did I get redirected to TB47? Either his power or maybe IR CMD'ed me?

Btw, JoH who was your N3 target?

If you're suspecting Roy was recruited, when do you think it happened? I targeted Roy night 1 after getting overly annoyed by his pitch-man game, I can confirm that as of Day 2, at least, that "Nope, no recruit here." and "Yeah, I'm a free agent at the moment when it comes to the pitch-man game," were honest statements.

I can't vouch for him from Night 2 onward, though.

TUNNEEEEEEEEELLLLLS!

*points to TBB* *points to TB47's body* BANG!

GiiiiiIIIIIRRRaaaaaaa.

I wonder if the day extension is tainted at all by people's previous assumption we'd be at the night phase by now and that has anything to do with the lower participation at the moment.

May still be a blocker out there to beware.

On N3 I was told someone was approaching and asked if I wanted to PGO being I wasn't making a Vig Hit. I said "No" because I had said I wouldn't and because I thought it might be a Town member double-checking my word. I was then told the allowed action blocked me so I wouldn't be asked again about any further approchers (and I admit, I then figured it was Mafia testing double-tap and I had just cleared a path for them to do it).