We were never turtly enough for the turtle club.

Why, Bud? Just...why?

Three words:

I...Like...Turtles

Bud is great at torture . . .

Waterboarding's for sissies.

I think it is incredibly small minded of our community to even continue to talk about this subject. It is like complaining about your high school principle at college graduation. At this point it is really just a personal attack and has nothing to do with furthering or resurrecting Heroclix. We as a community should move on from the subject and focus our energy on something more positive like enjoying an actual game or two with friends.

it's true. Real men settle for nothing less than drowning.

Now, Bud. What did the court say last time? You know, 1000 yards from turtles, no prowling the internet for turtle sites, and no bringing zombies into the discussion.

Remember?

It's true that only in the last year have I needed to rush to the store on release day to get my brick or case. They sold out so fast - possibly due to high-demand brick figures. Not many people really wanted BIBTB Iron Man.

I think that a lot of people have their mind made up, and considering that Mark Tuttle is too busy with his career at Sony to come back here to defend himself, they've got nothing better to do than to keep throwing insults that he'll never read or hear about. And to keep doing it for years after he's left, apparently.

You are correct, how it sells is. And HorrorClis was successful. The innitial printing sold out with demand being more then expected

http://www.skirmisher.com/HorrorClix...sSept2006.html

What killed the game was the massive delay between Freakshow and Nightmares. They went about 6 months no new product (except the BPRD set) and, worse of all no prize support. And by the time Nightmares released, everyone new the game was dead due to the leaked Wizkids PowerPoint. The whole reson for the delay was because the Freddy and Jason licences were obtained and Tuttle (I beleave it was him, though I may be wrong on that) thought it would be a good idea to have the Nightmares set released with the new starter for Freddy vs. Jason. But it was to little to late. I'm not saying that HorrorClix was doing phenominal before that. But it wasn't a flop.

However, from what I hear, the desision to make it only 80% compatible was Tuttles. He thought if they were 100%, they would end up hurting each other's sales. Why he thought this, I have no clue. Seems to me it was more the opposite. Not being 100% made it less likely that Heroclix players would get into Horrorclix, since they viewed it as another game. Ditto for Actionclix.

If you get a big enough crowd you'll always have that one guy who wants to...make sense. You should be ashamed...

Now, some may see my post as biased, especially those who have read my posts over the years and realize how I was always a cheerleader for the Tuttster. I was always there to encourage him on, cover his back and root for his many victories. Still, I think anyone being fair has to acknowledge my points.

1) The man who saved MTG.
When he got on board they were over saturated with players. His predecessors had taken a niche game and ruined it to the point that literally half the teenage nerds in America were playing it. No brand can survive such watering down for long, and Tuttle understood this.
Leaping swiftly in to action, he quickly returned the game to it's niche roots, thus saving it.

2) He gave the Heroclix fans exactly what they wanted.
Right off the bat from being hired, Tuttle quickly took on board feedback from all the fans, and then expertly sieved through all the accepted logic, down to the true logic that lay within.
Cutting edge decisions such as using WOTC's rarity system, WOTC's card system, WOTC's distribution system and WOTC's smaller 'sleeker' sculpts.
He asked us "do you want pieces made half the size, using soft plastic?" and we said "NO!", but he was man enough to know that some times NO! means YES! Just like the Bond Girl's that secretly want to fall before the rugged spy's charms, Tutt knew what we REALLY wanted, and spent his every waking hour giving it to us.

3) Brand loyalty increased 5000% under his watch.
A man of impeccable vision and iron determination (not unlike our 43rd President, George Walker Bush), Tuttle set about building loyalty in the only sure fire manner known, namely weeding out the nay sayers and defeatists.
By standing firm by his every decision, and refusing to budge ever, or even consider the slightest possibility that he might be wrong in word or deed, he gave the clix community the kind of strong leader it needed during the tumultuous period it coincidentally entered during the Tuttle era.

4) Read my lips: Generics in collector packs are just a coincidence.
If any one word could truly sum up a man as blessed as Mark Tuttle it would be 'integrity'. His word was his bond, and he would do ANYTHING to make sure he stuck by that bond, even if it meant using fine print, or changing what the bond had originally been in order to make sure that it now matched his word.
He never let anything get in the way of his truthiness. Not promises, not hard evidence including his signature, not even reality itself. When he spoke corporate doctrine word for word you knew it was the corporate doctrine of a loner, a loner who made his own decisions, decisions for the fans.
A lesser man would have been suspect when a slideshow showing complete and inescapable evidence of bare faced lying of the most base kind, but he was no lesser man. He had the courage and, yes, the integrity, to completely ignore the situation.
Could we really ask for more from any leader, be it brand manager or President of these United States?

5) It was the little things that made you love him.
Children can be tiring. Constantly running under foot, incessant stupid questions, lacking even a basic grasp of economics. Yet despite all of these flaws, he still loved us.
No matter how inane, ridiculous or infuriating we were, Tuttle always took time out to lecture us, sometimes as little as two weeks after the initial query.
He'd use small words, repeat himself, or underline important sentences, until his wisdom could enter even the thickest of craniums.
When he thought we were spending too much time in front of the computer reading previews he took the difficult step of cutting back on all customer interaction. Thanks to him maybe a few geeks played stick ball in the park, or kissed a girl. If he even saved one life, then it was worth it.


Like a savior, he loved us despite our all too human failings. His career died for our sins.

But he lives on, out there, in our dreams and...some sort of gaming capacity, probably.

It's reassuring to know that he IS out there, using that tried and true 3 page play book. No matter the type of game, or existing business model.

Amen.

Easily one of the most useless posts you have ever made.

EDIT:

There was originally a witty and cutting retort here, but who can be bothered with this kind of thing? It's only a gaming forum.

Don't like my posts? Fine, put me on ignore.

I'm turning the other cheek, sorry that you took obvious offense at my tongue in cheek ribbing of someone you have zero connection to.

Go in peace

Actually he said "ONE" of your most useless posts.
He wasn't degrading the relative uselessness of many of your other posts, just commenting on the relative merits of this one given your larger body of work.