1. Yah and Virginia was named for England's "Virgin Queen," Elizabeth I.

2. The major cash crop of Virginia is tobacco and many of the people who live there earn their living from the tobacco industry.

3. Jamestown, the first of the original 13 Colonies was founded for the purpose of silk cultivation. Silk to be traded with the Court of King James. After blight fungus destroyed the mulberry trees (silkworm food), sericulturist planted tobacco as a cash crop.

4. Jamestown was the first English settlement in the U.S. It was also the first capital of Virginia.

5. Virginia is known as "the birthplace of a nation".

6. Arlington County was originally part of the ten-mile square parcel of land surveyed in 1791 to be part of Washington, DC. The U.S. Congress returned that portion of the land to the "Commonwealth of Virginia" following a referendum among its citizens.

7. Eight United States Presidents were born in Virginia: George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, James Monroe, William Harrison, John Tyler, Zachary Taylor, and Woodrow Wilson.

8. Six Presidents' wives were born in Virginia: Martha Washington, Martha Jefferson, Rachel Jackson, Letitia Tyler, Ellen Arthur, Edith Wilson.

9. Seven Presidents are buried in Virginia: Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Tyler, Taft and Kennedy.

10. The present state capital in Richmond was also the capital of the Confederacy.

11. The College of William and Mary in Williamsburg is the second oldest in the United States, it was founded in 1693.

12. The State flower is not really a flower, but the blossom of the dogwood tree, which is also the state tree.(The Wood that the cross Jesus was crucified on came from.)

13. The first peanuts grown in the United States were grown in Virginia.

14. The Blue Ridge Mountains are located in Virginia.

15. The American Revolution ended with the surrender of Cornwallis in Yorktown.

16. On March 9, 1862 at Hampton Roads, Virginia, the USS Monitor and the CSS Virginia (formerly the USS Merrimac) met in one of the most famous naval engagements in US history. Their battle, the first of its kind between metal armored vessels, changed for all time the nature of naval warfare.

17. 10th of the 13 original colonies, Virginia was admitted to the union June 25, 1788.

18. Union Passenger Railway was the first successful electric street railway transit agency. It was formed in 1888 at Richmond.

19. The states of Kentucky & West Virginia were formed from sections of the state of Virginia

20. About 1/2 of all the people in the United States live within a 500 mile radius of the Capital of Virginia.

21. Virginia has had 3 capital cities: Jamestown, Williamsburg, and Richmond.

22. Richmond was also the capital of the Confederate States during the Civil War

23. Over 1/2 the battles fought in the civil war were fought in Virginia. Over 2,200 of the 4,000 battles.

24. In Virginia more people work for the United States government than any other industry. About 1/4 of Virginia's workers.

25. Virginia's largest private employer is also the world's largest ship building yard.

26. Virginia is the home base for the United States Navy's Atlantic Fleet.

27. The tomb of the Unknown Soldier is in Arlington National Cemetery.

28. The Pentagon building in Arlington is the largest office building in the world.

29. Dulles International Airport is one of the busiest airports in the world.

30. General Thomas Jackson got his nickname "Stonewall" in Manassass. The site of 2 major Civil War Battles.

31. The first Thanksgiving in North America was held in Virginia in 1619.

32. Yorktown is the site of the final victory of the American Revolution.

33. Virginia has been dubbed the "Internet Capital of the world".

34. The Atlantic headquarters of NATO is located in Norfolk.

35. The Great Dismal Swamp is in Virginia near the North Carolina border.

36. Virginia Beach is the largest city in Virginia. Its population is expected to surpass 500,000 residents by 2010.

37. The Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel is the world's largest bridge-tunnel complex.

38. Wild Ponies have roamed freely on Assateague Island for centuries.

39. The world's only oyster museum is on Chincoteague Island.

40. President Thomas Jefferson designed his own home and called it Monticello.

41. George Washington's home, Mount Vernon, is located in Virginia.

42. Robert E. Lee, Commanding General of the Army of Northern Virginia, surrendered his men to Ulysses Grant, General-in-Chief of all United States forces, on April 9, 1865 at the Appomattox Court House.

43. Patrick Henry made his "Give me Liberty or Give me Death" speech in St. John's Church in Richmond.

44. Bristol is legally two cities but they share the same main street. One in Virginia and one in Tennessee each with its own government and city services. (That’s where my wife is from.)

45. Waynesboro was the site of the last major battle of the Civil War in central Virginia, the Battle of Waynesboro in 1865 between Generals Jubal Early and Philip Sheridan.

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I put this tactic on my show last year. I wrote about this last year. I made a thread about this last year. Now you all are really getting onto this trick. Really? Now the pitchforks and torches?

Lets be honest here. If It was as game breaking as folks say then there would be tons of threads about it. Second of all in 300,400, and 500 it is a tough trick to pull off on several fronts. For lack of abetter words it is an all in gamble. Your vehicle can be destroyed or damaged on approach. There is no free lunch with this.

The second thing is in all honesty they didn't limit vehicles the way they should have. No giant or colossal character ever gets in a plane, car, disco, while huge. No tiny character has ever piloted a vehicle while small. There is ton of comic accurate problems in vehicles. Heck my bats can drive the Batmobile if I want.

The biggest thing is that there are some options if people are that afraid of mind control, which before Brother Voodoo wasn't there. Think about how long this tactic has been possible. Now think of how many of you who saw this just recently. You dump on GD saying they are dumb but you failed to spot the obvious some of us saw months ago.

Best thing I can say is go and actually break down how this will functionally work as a team, do a video on it and show everyone on youtube your "play testing." Hell if you want to come on my show and talk about your play testing I will make a show just for you to show your brilliance to the world.

Any takers?

It's more that some people really like to bag on WK, and you can make a thread about a lot of things and they'll take the opportunity to do so.
This I don't agree with just because I have never felt that the common consensus was evidence of anything. The most disgusting team in years could be out there, some people could know about it, and we might not have a ton of threads about it.
I don't dump on GD, PT though? Haha, yeah, I do. But let's be fair, a lot of people questioning PT did spot the obvious and that's WHY the criticism. Also, my critique of PT is not personal, it's not saying the Playtesters are bad at their job or anything like that, it's pointing out the failings of the System. I recognize that PT'ers might catch a lot of things but that due to circumstances still don't get fixed before release.
PM me

Cause someone's gotta stop people from abusing Gandalf

This is clearly broken because it's winning all those tournaments we all hear about. When WizKids introduced the GCPD Police Cruiser they did not intend the back seat to be a holding pen like in real life! /sarcasm mode off

Mmm so snarky...Good for you you caught on to the concept so early! I noticed it as well. But, as you seemed to have noticed too, it wasn't broken back when vehicles first came out. Then there was Brother Voodoo. Now it matters. I'm sure you can figure out how to abuse it if you think hard considering how ahead of the curve you were on the idea in the first place.

How does this sound for a possible fix?

"Characters may only become the pilot of a vehicle if they started the game friendly to that vehicle's force."

Sorry if someone already suggested this, but this thread kinda derailed a bit back there...

use the same wording they did for split merge and mind control

With all due respect the "bashing" may be necessary to get their attention. wk needs to get it together. How many times have we pleaded "please stop with new mechanics until the old problems are fixed?"

So many unanaswered questions and they want to introduce these new team bases? Resources, tiny, vehicles... seriously it is enough. I don't care what they introduce eventually but we don't even know how for sure if we can dpa with a token waiting.

Being the rules forum this may not be the most appropriate place for these grievances to be aired but it's where they come up.

No, it isn't. If you think there is an issue with a mechanic (by which I mean that something either doesn't seem to be working right or is in conflict with another ruling, not "boo-hoo, this character can't do what he does in the comics"), bring it up, and I or one of the other rules deupties will look at it, and if there's not a clear answer, we'll pass it on to Sean and Wizkids.

Continuing to argue for another 8 pages serves no purpose that I can see, but it does clog up the rules forum threads and make it harder for people to find actual answers.

Want to argue about how things "should" work? Fine. I just would prefer you to do it in general discussion or the dear wizkids forum so that we can keep the actual rules threads easier to find answers in.

OK, if the question has been asked, and now all we're doing is waiting for the answer, what's wrong with some joking around? Some people are just taking some of this too seriously.

What answer are you waiting for? It's perfectly clear that nothing in the rules prevents one from mind controlling a character to become a pilot. It's possible that it will get errata later, but it's pretty clear that it does work unless something changes.

And as I said, all the back and forth (a lot of which isn't even related to the topic at hand) makes it harder for people to find the answer buried amid all the posts about how people want it to work and whether it's a competitive tactic.

You seem to get very defensive, very quickly.

Now I'm just confused.

GOOD, confusion is part of life.

{The Last Dragon}