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Nothing person get, but it's a bit of metagaming-- have to establish that once under pressure to a certain degree, being stubborn will get you killed. It's the only way to make real the pressure of a lynch. Otherwise, there is no such thing as a pressure lynch and once the info gatherrs are gone/dealth with, the town is SOL.
As I pointed out...the town never got ANY evidence.
Your excuses were off, and there was no better target.
We could have afforded 2 bad lynches, but the 3rd (Sky) put us on the
brink, and allowing the mafia to control the next one sent us teetering
to a point where we were dependant on neutrals.
The alternative would have been to just stall out in the hope that we still
had a living cop who might get lucky.
THAT would be bad play.
I have to respectfully disagree. You were too focused on your own ideas and too stubborn to recognize others' logic. If you're too confident of your own correctness, you're 100% more likely to make mistakes that your common sense is trying to save you from.
Just as an offhand example, you were fixated on GroovyBoy being the double-voting Lawyers. When I told you they weren't the double-voters, you ignored it for the longest time. My double vote had shown in the previous day, and usually a confirmed double-voter gives townies a pause to think about whether or not a double-voter would be mafia.
Then there was that whole "You still get killed if you target a blocked PGO" nonsense. That made me guffaw.
I apologize-- I had several days of being badgered ending with being lynched, and then I get to hear how it was "smart play" even though the town lost due to it. A little "oh I made a mistake" or "sorry I didn't believe you" would be nice.
Being put on the defensive for essentially one single vote early in the game really sucks.
On the day in question, we'd just had a no-lynch day, and the only
alternative was lynching Sky...another townie, or another no-lynch day.
The Town lost three days later after lynching sky, being tricked into
lynching Morph, and failing to win over the neutrals.
This was part of post 1414.
Quote : Originally Posted by NotYou
Sorry, for what it's worth, but I'd do it again.
So again...I'm sorry for getting it wrong, but if we'd stopped making
mistakes at that point, we still could have won, and from that perspective
I would do it again.
That aside, Sorry you got the short end of the Stick.
I can't rep malakim for this game. Hrm. I can't rep anyone in this forum any more, it seems.
Quote : Originally Posted by Ignatz_Mouse
Nothing person get, but it's a bit of metagaming-- have to establish that once under pressure to a certain degree, being stubborn will get you killed. It's the only way to make real the pressure of a lynch. Otherwise, there is no such thing as a pressure lynch and once the info gatherrs are gone/dealth with, the town is SOL.
But...but...! Aw. lol
You're preaching to the choir anyway, Ignatz. I think I'm fairly notorious for not using night information.
Quote : Originally Posted by Grinner
Gotta agree with the logic on this one. He has usually hit someone who isn't town with this many attempts.
I have to respectfully disagree. You were too focused on your own ideas and too stubborn to recognize others' logic. If you're too confident of your own correctness, you're 100% more likely to make mistakes that your common sense is trying to save you from.
Just as an offhand example, you were fixated on GroovyBoy being the double-voting Lawyers. When I told you they weren't the double-voters, you ignored it for the longest time. My double vote had shown in the previous day, and usually a confirmed double-voter gives townies a pause to think about whether or not a double-voter would be mafia.
Then there was that whole "You still get killed if you target a blocked PGO" nonsense. That made me guffaw.
No...The double voter thing wasn't my idea.
I took it on board...and pointed out when the current theory seemed to
at a point where it'd be proved/disproved.
The double vote was never shown to be yours at all.
You made a comment that implied knowledge regarding it, but knowledge
doesn't only come from ownership.
That's the thing...you take something, and twist it to use as proof.
The fact that it isn't proof makes you less believable.
When you were using the "mafia would be after Rokk, not before"
as proof that you were town, it just made you look worse to me.
And I still don't see why a Roleblocked person gets defended that way.
I can see why a Jailkept person would...
But not a Roleblocked one.
I just wanted to say that I targetted Truffle because i thought she was suspicious and at the time the town was winning so i wanted to play along on their side.
The reason I decided not to really go after anyone after that is because Vaarsuvius threatened to "Exploding Runes" me if I killed anyone else. :speechles
Nothing personal against ya, TS.
Congrats to my fellow winners.
I personally had fun, so I hope Mal doesn't take much offense with my small amount of constructive criticism:
Bounty hunter with a daykill (especially on a main character like Belkar) is pretty much an autowin for the BH. All he has to do is claim as his target and wait for the target to refute him, trying to get a lynch.
Bounty hunter with a daykill (especially on a main character like Belkar) is pretty much an autowin for the BH. All he has to do is claim as his target and wait for the target to refute him, trying to get a lynch.
Oh man, that whole thing with Rokk, as the Don I was so mad that he was claiming as Belkhar so early. As people guessed, Rokk hadn't clues us into that little bit (in fact he never posted his role PM).
The funny thing is, before the game even started we discussed Rokk claiming as a Bounty Hunter on Belkgar if the time came. Just turned out it was true...
"Why would the possibility of me being wrong ever stop me from doing something?"
Bounty hunter with a daykill (especially on a main character like Belkar) is pretty much an autowin for the BH. All he has to do is claim as his target and wait for the target to refute him, trying to get a lynch.
Admittedly, that was experimentation on my part. I've never used a BH role before.
So I'll probably not be trying that again.
And I don't mind constructive criticism at all.
Quote : Originally Posted by hail_eris
Little known fact - the "M" in M. Bison actually stands for "malakim2099."