...using only marvel characters? I'm thinking 300-400 points here. thanks

Well i would reccommend using veteran punisher in this team. he is only 80 points, and for all of the stuff he can do, he is great! another person is either vision or carnage. because carnage has perplex and vision can shoot from 10 squares away, an avenger, and is only 112.on th other hand, Carnage has blades, claws, and fangs, and leap -climb, and like i said, perplex. o yea and toughness. This is just my opinion though.

actually, try something stratigic... 2-3 RCE's with trickshot, like V shield sniper, Madame Hydra, E klaw... and then surround them with stealthers......

great choices:
moloids
Umens
Domino
Mysterio
(if unrestricted)
black panther
mystique
and so on.. you know support pieces....

it works really well.. i want to try it out sometimes but havent gotten a chance to

any more ideas? thanks

any more?

Yeah... With Silver Sable Vet you'll be able to keep that 17 D if she shares the Defenders Team ability.

could you explain a little more? im kinda confused

V Sable is a Spider Man Ally, and can copy the Defenders team ability from Surfer and they can share defenses.

I think V Cloak and Dagger would also be good here, with Super Senses...

I used Silver surfer in a tourny with....

V Domino-52
U Black Queen-70

I think a crossgen/mystic t/a with copiers like spiderman people, and some shield people also. So when you see Ares or somebody with high attacks that you think can hit that 18 defense you copy that so if they do in fact hit you they take a click of damage.