I searched high and low on this before doing the embarrassing thing and asking. (By the way, searching the rules forum for "push damage invulnerability" results in a PHP error.

I assume that abilities like invulernability, impervious and toughness can be used to reduce damage from a push.

I searched the web and reread the rules and can't find any reason why they wouldn't.

Thanks,

hrhead

It's fine. Nope, powers like Toughness, Invulnerbility, and Impervious do not reduce damage from a push. Hope this helps you.

Actually, they don't. Push damage is different than regular damage. It keeps characters like KC Superman from running amok 2 out of 3 turns. If a figure takes a second token on, whether it be willingly or by being the target of an action by the opponent (namely, incapacitate.) the figure needs to take 1 click for "pushing."

Hope that helps.

The Frontman

Awww Wabbit. YOu beat me to it.

The Frontman

Wabbit and F-man are, of course correct, and here is why:

So you see, the click you take for pushing is pushing damage.

Now, the damage reducing powers say this:

Note that these powers only reduce damage dealt, not pushing damage.

Also, definitions for these terms may also be found in the Glossary of the rulebook:


Hope this helps....

Thanks everyone for clearing that up and taking my question seriously. Especially to Psylockeslover, for the detailed explanation. I see the distinction now between damage dealt and pushing damage. I was going on the HyperTime rulebook I got with my starter set, which does not use the clear terminology of the rules you reference, but only refers under pushing to "that character takes 1 click of damage", hence I couldn't see why toughness wouldn't apply but it didn't seem right that Wonder Woman (in this case) could keep pounding away with no penalty.

Thanks again everyone,

hrhead

Obviously you know now that you weren't using the most current set of the rules (and I can't remember what it used to say for Toughness), but even under that wording...Toughness (as written today) would not reducing pushing damage. Pushing damage then was damage taken (now it is a click of the dial) and Toughness only reduces damage dealt. You can see this at work currently in MC feedback damage which is damage taken and thus not reducable by powers which reduce damage dealt.

Hope that wasn't too confusing.