I was playing a game with E Metamorpho on my team, and R blue devil on my opponent's team, and he was holding a heavy object. I was going to use the outsiders TA on him, and he said I couldn't do it because it wouldn't affect the damage he could deal with super strength. I didn't want to make a thing out of it, so I just let him keep holding onto the object (my guys weren't within 4 squares anyway)

so, I was wondering, does the Outsiders TA nerf super strength?
how about RCE?
CCE?
ES/D?
CR?

I already know it nerfs perplex, enhancement, the PD, S.H.I.E.L.D. and H.Y.D.R.A. TA's, but I'm not so sure about these.

I believe that Super Strength is safe because it effects damage dealt.

I know you can use Outsiders TA on RCE, ESD, CCE, and now combat reflexes.

Its kinda like Outwit light. Katanna is a real good option. I find it very useful on defenses like ESD and occasionally attacks like RCE.

SStr doesn't actually modify anything, it simply allows the figure to carry items which happen to modify the Damage Dealt when the figure makes a CC Attack. Since Damage Dealt isn't a Combat Value, Outsiders TA doesn't have any effect on it. It also has no effect on modifiers from Feats (like ICwO and Haymaker) or modifiers from inate abilities (-2 AV from Transporter MNA). It does affect any Power or Team Ability that provides a modifier to a Combat Value and that includes:

Hydra/PD
Shield
Morlocks
Ult X-Men
2000AD/Alpha Flight
RCE
CCE
ES/D
CR
HSS (option 2)
Enhancement

This may not be everything but SuperGene has it covered (sticky thread at top of rules forum).

BoT