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Let's say I've got an E Vixen on a team with Mon-el. Mon-el is WC-ing Suicide Squad, and Vixen, who is standing beside everyone's favorite Daxamite, gets KO'ed.
Does Mon-el keep the TA long enough for it to trigger, or does he lose it before reaping the benefits of Vixen's KO?
Let's say I've got an E Vixen on a team with Mon-el. Mon-el is WC-ing Suicide Squad, and Vixen, who is standing beside everyone's favorite Daxamite, gets KO'ed.
Does Mon-el keep the TA long enough for it to trigger, or does he lose it before reaping the benefits of Vixen's KO?
Thanks!
He gets to use it as far as I know. You just have to make sure he was using it before Vixen got KO'd
Wilcards keep the TA they copy until you say they're copying something else.
Once copied they keep that TA, even if the figs with the TA are KO'd.
So Mon-el would keep the Suicide Squad TA, and reap it's benefits until you state he copies something else, even if Vixen gets KO'd Mon-El still gets to use the TA.
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Wilcards keep the TA they copy until you say they're copying something else.
Once copied they keep that TA, even if the figs with the TA are KO'd.
So Mon-el would keep the Suicide Squad TA, and reap it's benefits until you state he copies something else, even if Vixen gets KO'd Mon-El still gets to use the TA.
You lose a copied TA as soon as there aren't any more sources of that TA to copy.
If Vixen get KO'ed, Mon-el loses the TA*. It's just a question of whether he loses it before or after he gets to use it...
*That is, unless the WC rules that were changed with the release of Danger Room were changed again in LoSH.
Quote : Originally Posted by LoSH rulebook, page 16
A wild card retains the team ability it last used until it uses another team ability, or until the end of an action in which the character whose team ability the wild card is using is knocked out or otherwise removed from the game.
The relevant part is highlighted: Mon-el gets to keep the Suicide Squad TA until the entire action leading to Vixen's KO is resolved - this includes the Suicide Squad healing roll. In short, he gets one last use of the TA.
BTW JadeDragon: Your statement was true with the Icons ruleset, but was changed with the Danger Room rules. Nothing has changed with the LoSH rules though.
The relevant part is highlighted: Mon-el gets to keep the Suicide Squad TA until the entire action leading to Vixen's KO is resolved - this includes the Suicide Squad healing roll. In short, he gets one last use of the TA.
BTW JadeDragon: Your statement was true with the Icons ruleset, but was changed with the Danger Room rules. Nothing has changed with the LoSH rules though.
Thanks for looking up the rule. I was 99% certain but did not have time to look it up. I am at work and I should not even be posting!
Q: What is the correct sequence for applying game effects when a character with a team ability such as SUICIDE SQUAD or Fantastic Four pushes to attack and, in the process, KOs a character that triggers its team ability (by using Pulse Wave, from splash damage from Energy Explosion, etc)?
A: The attack would be made, damage would be dealt, pushing would be applied, and then the effects of the team ability would be applied. If pushing causes the attacking character to be KOd, then it cannot use the team ability to heal itself.
Since the damage dealt causes the KO and the Suicide Squad member to leave the game, doesn't the TA go away before the wildcards can use it, according to this sequence from the latest general Errata & Clarifications doc?
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Since the damage dealt causes the KO and the Suicide Squad member to leave the game, doesn't the TA go away before the wildcards can use it, according to this sequence from the latest general Errata & Clarifications doc?
In my eyes, the action doesn't conclude until after the sequence you highlighted has been cocnluded - including the healing.