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03/25/2008, 20:40

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ICWO vs outsider

does the outsider team ability stop modifiers from feat cards such as ICWO or shellhead

03/25/2008, 21:16

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Quote : Originally Posted by goldentiger3

does the outsider team ability stop modifiers from feat cards such as ICWO or shellhead

No, just powers and team abilities.

03/26/2008, 09:08

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how about this

what about powers such as duo attack (which is a power action ) and move and attack ( which is a move action ) can you outsider that

03/26/2008, 09:13

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Quote : Originally Posted by goldentiger3

what about powers such as duo attack (which is a power action ) and move and attack ( which is a move action ) can you outsider that

Those are abilities, not powers or team abilities, so again Outsiders has no effect.

03/26/2008, 10:45

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....Sorry, I'm just waiting for a "What about ___ BFC?"

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03/26/2008, 11:57

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Since Outsiders is already not wildcardable and fairly limited, they need to alter it in a future set to prevent feats from increasing values. It might make it worth it. I'd love to knock out the Shellhead on a Thanos!

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03/26/2008, 12:04

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Quote : Originally Posted by thraashman

I think the only change that might need to be made is the "...at the beginning of your turn..." part. Other than that, Outsiders is plenty powerful enough as it is.

03/26/2008, 12:46

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Yeah, powerwise it is fine, but the timing limitation is what is not very good.

03/26/2008, 12:54

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Quote : Originally Posted by magerunner

Yeah, powerwise it is fine, but the timing limitation is what is not very good.

Isn't that what balances it?

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03/26/2008, 18:39

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Outsiders is fantastic the way it is. It's the strategic thinking involved that makes people desire a change to it. WK needs to stop changing the game every time someone complains about having to think to play a game of strategy.

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