hi guys...

I have the Chief and another fig with leadership in my team.
I did my homework and I know that the manipulate token can only be added with the Chief´s leadership roll.
But...

I know that if I have two or more leaderships in my team I can roll with each one of them, but even if every roll is succesfull I can only add 1 action to my turn.

If Chief´s roll is succesfull I choose not to add an action to my turn and I add one manipulate token to Chief´s card.
But if the other LS fig has a succesfull LS roll...
Can I add with the other roll an action to my turn?

Thanks!

I don't think it would work that way but I am not sure without having everything in front of me.

My suggestion role leadership with the other guy first and avoid the confusion.

Well, let's start by quoting the power.
Now... where does it say that OTHER character's Leadership won't work for this?

And Leadership says:
Now, if you have more than 1 figure with Leadership, you can roll for all of them, but you can only gain 1 action at the most. Since it doesn't say "you can only get benefits from Leadership once", I would say that you can get an action AND you can get a Manipulate token.

I thought exactly the same, but I did a search at wizkids and Norm answered that only the Chief´s leadership would activate this...
Not what the power says but it wouldn´t be the first time that a special power works diferently than the description...


I also thought that... but... who knows?!?!?!?
I´m not a telepath and I don´t know the intentions of game design...

That´s the reason of my question...

My mom caught me manipulating the chief once. We didn't talk for a week.

Leadership says you can only gain 1 action per round using the ability. Manipulate says that instead of gaining an action, you can put a manilulate token on Chief's card if there are less than three tokens. It sounds like an either/or situation to me. But I'm not too sure about that myself.

It says that for Chief's Leadership... but not for other Leaderships.

If Norm said that only Cheif's Leadership could do that, then that's the ruling. I'm curious if it came from GD or if it was his "best guess" ruling until he hears from GD.
Also, if the SP only works for Chief's Leadership, then that means other Leaderships will work normally... although that part of the SP is what was poorly written, whether it's saying that ONLY Cheif's Leadership works this way or if any Leadership works this way. If any Leadership works for it, then I'm not sure you could get an extra action as well because of the "If Leadership would allow you to add an action to your action total for the turn, you can instead put a Manipulate token"

Leave it to Bud to degenerate a Heroclix question into something disgusting

If you're putting a token on The Chief instead of getting an action then you're never getting an action from The Chief's Leadership. The token option replaces the extra action option. It's not, "You can use the extra action from a successful Leadership roll to place a token on The Chief." Placing a token is done instead of adding an action to your action total for the turn.

I'm not sure if I should rep you or report you.

I've re-read this a couple times already and I'm trying to figure out if you're agreeing or debating.... You're saying you can use the other fig's Leaderships to add an action in addition to Chief's token, right?

I'm saying if you have The Chief and another character with Leadership on your team then you can place a "Manipulate" token on The Chief from his use of Leadership and you can get an extra action from the other character's use of Leadership in the same turn.

Disgusting? No. That was funny.

I'd have no problem seeing this ruled as such, but I can also see the other side of the situation and have it so that if Chief's uses his Leadership's extra action to place a manipulate token, then all other Leadership rolls will not work because Chief's Leadership already did. If other Leaderships worked, then Chief's would not have added another action to your round total and thus you couldn't add the manipulate token. Either Chief's Leadership would add the extra action or it would not. If you place a manipulate token, it means that Chief did add an extra action, but you forfeited that action to gain the token. If some other figure's Leadership was used to add an extra action, then Chief's Leadership could not have added an extra action and thus he could not gain a manipulate token.

And it seems to be that people here just have a hard time understanding the meaning of the word, "instead".

Well, when you can show where in the dictionary the term "power action" is, I'll start using the dictionary's definition of 'instead'. Until then the link you've posted means nothing when it comes to Heroclix.

Power action?

I guess I can play the game however I want since all words are meaningless in HeroClix.