Superman has his special power outwitted. If rip moved adjacent him during the next turn would his outwitted power return or is it still outwited ? character.


Also can the chase superman that can carry 2 objects also carry a non flyer ?

It only protects the power at the moment of countering. Also, it does not cover SP's.

Sure, he can carry a grounded, single base, non-transporter, non-giant non-duo fig.

I think the power would no longer be outwited but im not 100% positive on that. as for the supes it does not say anything about him no beign able to do a character and two standard objects

In thinking about it I dont think it would return but we all know how sometimes things are ruled that it might return as soon as he becomes adjacent.


The reason for the questions is that I am thinking of playing the chase supes and rip hunter for the fortitude lite of his special power.

Actually, Supes special power would still be outwitted because it's not a named or standard power, it's a "special" power. So regardless of whether rip hunters next to him or not, it would be outwittable. hope that helps

To reiterate:

Rips Special Power does not prevent Special Powers from being Outwitted.

I thought special powers fell under the named powers. Is this covered in a rulebook?

No, Special Powers are the powers that are in the 'white' box on a dial.

Named powers are the powers that are standard powers (like BCF) but have a name beside them on the character card. Common Robin from Crisis has 'Bat-Line' (Leap/Climb) that is a named power.

But special powers have names too!

Yes.

Check out the inside of the Legion rules page 5. Figure 3 and below it.

Standard Power is Outwit.

A Named Power is "I Know What You Are Thinking" (Outwit) - a named power with a descriptive title.

A Special Power is a unique power fully described on the character card.

Yes, it adds to the confusion since it should be standard and special, but that is WizKids. Nothing like adding a little confusion to the game...

As far as the original post it looks like its going to go like this:

By moving Rip next to an Outwitted figure those powers that are outwitted return.

This stems from the current ruling about the Power Cosmic / Quintessance TA which says something like:

If you Mind Control Surfer and turn off his TA you can Outwit him. Say you Outwit his HSS. At the end of your turn Surfer's TA comes back on and since it does not allow his powers to be Outwitted his HSS would return.

The wording of Rip's SP and the PC/Q TA are almost identical therefore the theory is the ruling will be the same.

I disagree with the ruling, but if you wanted to get the legal ruling it looks like that will be it.

Hope that helps...

From the glossary of the LoSH rulebook:

Standard Power: A power or ability whose effects are described on the powers and abilities card.

Named Power: A power with a character-specific label in capital letters, followed by the name of a standard power in parentheses.

Special Power: A power whose name and effects are explained on a character’s character card and are unique to that character.

Maybe this will help clear up your confusion

Wait a minute, how did YOU get a copy of the rules?

None are allowed to read that sacred text! (or at least that is the way it frequently seems)

This game has such extensive errata and supplemental rules docs that it's easy to forget about the ol rulebook.

And this has now been confirmed by the RA.
http://forum.wizkidsgames.com/showthread.php?p=1596465