So, I don't have the new rulebook yet and I'm playing an online game in the Fantasy League.

Is it true that the TKer doesn't need to see the TKee at the beginning of the action to TK that person, they only need to see the destination square?

ex.

123xxxxxx
456xxxxx7
890xxxxxx

Ok, there's a formation of 9 characters, with square "7" being clear terrain, and all x's are clear terrain as well.

If 6 is Jean Grey, and 4 is Cyclops, can Jean Grey TK Cyc to square 7 under the new rules, or would character 5 (Beast) have to move first?

Thanks guys.

Beast would need to move first.

It's basically the same, only at 8 squares...from the TKee's spot and it still has to be within the TK'er's 8 squares when putting down your TKee, in case he started a square in front of your TKer.

Note that the rules and PAC are available from the Units page here at HCRealms.

Short answer: No, you still need to see the target at the begining of the move, and at the end of the move. It's between those points you don't need to be able to see them (IE, you can fly them around blocking terrain).

Have they made some errata to the PAC in regards to the TKer having to have a clear line of fire to the destination when moving an opposing character? The PAC for that part of it, says, "move the target up to 8 squares so long as it ends it's movement 8 or fewer squares from this character." whereas the moving of friendly characters and objects has this exact same sentence, but also adds "in a square to which this character has a clear line of fire."

From that, if you are moving an opposing character, you could move them around a building to a square that you don't have line of fire to, just as long as they are within 8 squares of the TKer.
Moving a friendly character or object do require the TKer to have a clear line of fire to the destination of the target.

...or have I and our entire group read this wrong?

EDIT: I see in the rulebook itself on TK that it states the TKer has to see the destination square for any movement of objects or characters, so nevermind.

Thanks guys.

So what if they are adjacent to a opposing character. do i have to roll for a breakaway roll?

This came up recently at one of the venues I play at. I was going to TK a friendly fig out of adjacency with an opposing fig. The judge said I had to roll breakaway.

123xxxxxx
456xxxxx7
890xxxxxx

x= clear terrain

7 is my TKer and 6 is friendly. All other numbers are opposing.

Does 6 need to breakaway for 7 to TK it out of melee? I think not, but I did not argue with the judge.

You see I agree with you. since it doesn't say you have to any where int he new rule's book or the PAC card.

here is what the rulebook says on page 7:

here is the glossary definition:

Tarnish or normalview can either of you weigh in here please can break THIS DOWN FOR ME.

but just like being carried away you are not moveing. you are being moved.so your quote isn't correct.

Doing a little research on tk I learned this, from the errata:

That is the definition of break away from the glossary in the most recent rulebook.

Dude I already know this. What are you talking about. Please if you don't know don't post!!