At a recent tournament, a judge asked a player to give his dice a shake and a pop when rolling his dice, as opposed to his habitual habit of holding the dice in the palm of his hand face up then rolling.

My question is: Is there a correct way to roll the dice as stated in the rulebook?

Was the judge in the wrong for asking the player to do this?

Thanks,
-T

There is no directive in the rulebook.

If the judge suspected that something was fishy, then he does have the right to ask for a new technique.

There is nothing in the rules that dictates how you have to roll your dice, though it probably should resemble "rolling".

There are house rules, so i would say the judge would be correct in his ruling if he suspected something strange with the way the player was rolling his dice. There are special methods to roll certain numbers.

No

No.

The Judge is the absolute authority at events. If the judge suspects that a person may be getting a non-randomized result from their dice they may make whatever correction needed to ensure that the match is fairly played.

As a Judge and Player, I think that anyone that is trying to bias a die roll is just plain pathetic .. A. It doesn't always work B. if you can't play the game honestly why are you playing.

In my opinion, though, the "hand dump" is just as randomizing as anything else given that the table is firm enough and the distance between the hand and table is sufficient to produce "action" on the dice.

Yea at my last tourney my Opponent would pinch his dice and adjust it before rolling for Super Senses. He roll 6 for his super senses rolls three times in a roll. I was getting ready to say something but I decided it was just luck. (good thing too I got the fellowship later that day, if I had random mentioned the dice rolls I woulda looked like some sore loser)

However, if the next time I play him he does the same thing and continues to roll nothing but 6s using that technique I'm gonna have to take action. Getting lucky a few times on super senses and such is one thing but always getting 6 is another.

Unless he is changing the shape and weight of the die by pinching it (like Data did in a Star Trek episode), I can't see how he was doing anything that would help him in his favor. If he was still dropping them on the table from a suitable height and the dice bounced and they still landed as a 6 its just luck.

My personal view on the matter is you can roll your die any way you want.
You can use a cup, drop them down, roll from your palm, roll each die one at a time, give them a spin, whatever, as long as they are dropped at a suitable height from the table top (about 8 inches or more).
Bottom line is that as long as the dice roll there is a randomness to them and that can't be controlled.
I don't want to be the kind of judge that lords over a venue tournament with little rules like that.
HOWEVER, if there is a moment where you ARE cheating or rolling the die an inch from the table surface or something, you will be using a cup to roll from then on through that game.

Ah so a cup roll (a la Yahtzee) IS legal?

My venue has strictly outlawed "cupping".


/If you had a dirty mind, you'd be disgusted right now!

I'm cool with whatever roll as long as it does not send figures flying from the map.

as long as they either roll or bounce

I'm a dice dealer at a casino, so I've fairly able to establish people trying to cheat with their dice rolls. We do several things at the casino to make sure this is doesn't happen. Number one, obviously, we use our own dice. Two, the edges of the dice are sharpened to allow for maximum tumble. They have to bounce them off the wall of the table, not just the layout.

But then again, that's for money...no one would be crazy enough to bring loaded dice for a heroclix game...right?

Not trying to be paranoid or anything, just letting you know.

I hope there was sarcasm there. I've seen it happen.

I know the guy who rolled the dice like that, actually, and he was very frustrated about it...I think that the judge may have overstepped his bounds a little, unless the player was consistently rolling boxcars or just what he needed to hit.

As far as the player himself, I know him well enough to know that he's not fudging the dice- that's a skill that takes practice, and I don't think he has the time or the inclination to do so.

There are tons and tons of ways to fix your dice, some don't even involve loading them in anyway. There are ways you can roll them that will determine the outcome (and it's easier the smaller/the less dice you have, which is why I wouldn't condone throwing one at a time). I'm not saying to be suspicious of everyone, but there are definitely ways besides loaded dice.