ok here we go

DARK LORD: Mordru can use Barrier, Energy Explosion, Psychic Blast, Pulse Wave, Smoke Cloud, and Telekinesis. Mordru has the giant damage symbol.

sure he can shut his giant power off but with smoke cloud and barrier, can't they seem him above it, AND if he shuts his power off so he is small don't they go away anyway.

NEXT!

this weekend i was playing on an indoor map.

B = blocking
S = spidergirl (opponent)
T = Johnny Storm LE (or torch)
F = Mr. Fantastic
I = Sue Storm
G = SI Thing (ben Grimm)

X X X X X X X
X X B B B 1 X
X X B B B X X
X X T X G S X
X X X I F X X

now johnny wants to get up to 1 to safely PULSEWAVE
can he cross over Spidergirls square to get to it.
but its an indoor map, can he cross over Spidergirl

yes [obligatory filler]

1. Terrain affect LOF to giants just as it does to normal sized characters, so a barrier would block LOF to Mordru.
2. In the second example, yes, he can move through Spider_girl's square. Incidentally, in that diagram, Mr. Fantastic would be hit by the pulsewave, too. LOF would cross at the diagonal between blocking terrain and Spider-Girl.

dunno mate, i am not sure being that i have slept since then but i am pretty sure we string measured it and it nicked the corner of the blocking terrain.

Probably because the lines were imprecise on the map...the math is not.

got anything you can point me to for the math of it?

I'm pretty sure that there is a stringless LOF chart tool on SuperGene's site...It's pretty easy to find a link if you just do a search on SuperGene...a link is in his sig.

Edit: Nevermind, completely misread the chart. ZZZ is correct.

My favorite method for finding LOF is to trace LOF to the halfway point between 2 figures. The halfway point here is the NorthWest corner of Spider-Girl's square. Both Human Torch and Mr Fantastic can trace LOF to that point for Pulse Wave.