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I copied this from the dials page and now I have a question
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Speed - From Among the Gargoyles: Batman can use Charge and Leap/Climb. When Batman uses Stealth, he considers the rim of elevated terrain to be hindering terrain.
Not like I'm ever going to have one.... but this power is really strange
Though I can see some kind of errata on this one with no actual mentioning of "stealth" in the batman TA
I believe the current wording for Batman TA is something like "Characters with this Team Ability may use Stealth although they do not possess Stealth."
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Though I can see some kind of errata on this one with no actual mentioning of "stealth" in the batman TA
Check the Legion PAC - the wording changed to say that "Batman Ally team members can use Stealth" (or something approximating that - it definitely uses the word Stealth).
Check the Legion PAC - the wording changed to say that "Batman Ally team members can use Stealth" (or something approximating that - it definitely uses the word Stealth).
Excellent. I couldn't find it on the WK site.. You may want to contact the appropriate people as the only pac that's listed is for the FF starter..
I thought I remembered seeing something that said stealth there, but wanted to make sure that I was correct (so I went to the site) before my post.
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which is pretty good because the old version just listed the effects of stealth.
Yeah.. even the realms one only lists the effects of stealth, which is why I didn't want to definitively say it mentioned stealth without seeing a legion pac
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Now I got some questions too about this ability, though as said, I will problably never get one. Doesn't this mean he considers the edge of elevated terain as hindered when shooting through it (roof top to roof top) unless he turns it off of course. Also, what about the wording of the text, it says strait up hindering terain, does it mean normal or elevated hindering (as there is a difference for blocking terain being elevated or not), especially since it doesn't help his charge much (would would think its designed for him to come charging down on prey). Which leads to my next question, doesn't that hurt his charge, since canceling the power turns off his charge too.
Now I got some questions too about this ability, though as said, I will problably never get one. Doesn't this mean he considers the edge of elevated terain as hindered when shooting through it (roof top to roof top) unless he turns it off of course. Also, what about the wording of the text, it says strait up hindering terain, does it mean normal or elevated hindering (as there is a difference for blocking terain being elevated or not), especially since it doesn't help his charge much (would would think its designed for him to come charging down on prey). Which leads to my next question, doesn't that hurt his charge, since canceling the power turns off his charge too.
well first you can't charge AND leap/Climb so thats outta the question.
lets see next up you have shooting through hindering terrain.....I assume you mean shooting at say a Giant or something, because you are saying a grounded character you would have to be on the edge to see em.
Yeah for a giant if he leaves the power on i could see that...its dumb but i could see it lol.
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don't forget stealth comes back at the end of your turn.
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also you don't need to shut the power off to get out of the hindering terrain. you have to shut your Team affiliation off. So batty man would still have charge.
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Yes I know about the stealth and L/C rules, and you seem to agree on the shooting through ledge squares. However, what does turning off your TA have to do with reduced charge range and dropping down on enemies? Currently if he is on a ledge he can only charge 3. The confusion with the terrain wording just makes me wonder if that gives him an oppening to charge down to lower terrain squares, you know like Batman normaly drops down on oppeonents. Though I suppose he could just charge along the rooftop edge and melee someone next to it thanks to the L/C ability.
Yes I know about the stealth and L/C rules, and you seem to agree on the shooting through ledge squares. However, what does turning off your TA have to do with reduced charge range and dropping down on enemies? Currently if he is on a ledge he can only charge 3. The confusion with the terrain wording just makes me wonder if that gives him an oppening to charge down to lower terrain squares, you know like Batman normaly drops down on oppeonents. Though I suppose he could just charge along the rooftop edge and melee someone next to it thanks to the L/C ability.
i believe what you are asking is "If the power makes the edge of elevated terrain hindering, wont that slow down his charge (other words, cut his speed in half)?"
the answer to that is no.
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the power only treats the square of elevated terrain (the edge he is on) as hindering for LOF purposes only. so the square is still clear elevated. but he cant charge down because he cant us L/C and charge together.
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Yes I know about the stealth and L/C rules, and you seem to agree on the shooting through ledge squares. However, what does turning off your TA have to do with reduced charge range and dropping down on enemies? Currently if he is on a ledge he can only charge 3. The confusion with the terrain wording just makes me wonder if that gives him an oppening to charge down to lower terrain squares, you know like Batman normaly drops down on oppeonents. Though I suppose he could just charge along the rooftop edge and melee someone next to it thanks to the L/C ability.
You seem to be thinking that the power changes terrain from Elevated to (non-Elevated) Hindering. That's not the case; it simply treats the terrain as Hindering. It's still Elevated as well.
You seem to be thinking that the power changes terrain from Elevated to (non-Elevated) Hindering. That's not the case; it simply treats the terrain as Hindering. It's still Elevated as well.
Wouldn't it then actually read "elevated hindering terrain?" I'm thinking the power is designed to allow Bats to Charge off buildings to the ground...
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