Is it possible?

With a low defense, low attack value, and low damage value is it possible to make him competitive in a 300 point format?

#058 U Chang Tzu
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 6
Points: 107
Keywords: Great Ten, Scientist

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6 9 15 2

6 9 15 2

6 10 15 2

5 10 14 2

5 8 14 1

4 7 13 1

3 6 13 1

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Damage - Malicious Experiment: Chang Tzu can use outwit and perplex. When Chan Tzu uses Perplex, he can use it normally, or he can modify a combat value by-2



The best Great Ten team would have to be:

Chang Tzu
Ghost Fox Killer
August General in Iron

August General serves as an Enhancement taxi for the Egg. Sadly the General is better served charging into the thick of it, as is Ghost Fox, leaving no optimal candidates to Mastermind.

Scientists seem a better route to go.

I'm toying with the idea of using Will Magnus & Platina from Crisis, as Mastermind fodder & support, but can't figure out how to improve mobility. (Ideally, I'd love to create a 52 Oolong Island science squad and use Professor Ivo, Dr. SIvanna and T.O. Morrow, but I need some Mastermind fodder!).


What would you do to make the Egg a real threat?

I wouldn't play him in a 300 point game.

I really feel that it is an artificial limit. It's obvious to me that many new dials are designed to be effective (or appropriately priced) only in high-point value games, on big teams.

Egg is one such piece. I love the Oolong Island team - and on 500 points there's room for plenty of scientists, Auto-Regen, armed security guards and henchmen. On 1000 points, there's room for robot warriors and Battle Beetles! (Maybe the Battle Beetles have Devil Dino dials?)

Ivo is pretty awesome MM fodder. How about in unrestricted? Any good subs for the 4 horsemen? Egg + MODOK!! You know you want it. In general I wouldn't be so hung up on mastermind. Yeah it is good, and a waste not to use but for instance with great ten theme Accomplished Perfect Physician should have no trouble healing him. Or in your example team, just have him hang out in stealth and use your other 2 to soften up the opponents significantly. He could be a beast if you can leave him where he belongs, which is in the shadows. That is how he played it in 52, that is how he should play in heroclix.

Feats:

Brilliant tactician- Especially in bigger games
Contingency plan- one of the best candidates
Auto Regen is a must in unrestricted

Egg is my #1 want for this set. I'm hoping to pull or trade for him today. Oolong Island has to be the best part of 52. So good.

i'm thinking 400 Oolong Mad Science Squad. Unrestricted (CASUAL)

151-Chang+BT+ContingencyPlan+AutoRegen
059-Ivo
131-Sivanna- BT
028-V Morrow
015-R HDC Trooper
015-R HDC Trooper
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399

or 300
chang, sivanna, ivo, r morrow=298

i dunno
theres the brain and mr mind as well, both pretty themey

What about Egg-Fu and a swarm of Mutliplex?

egg-fu, penguin(has defend with a 17 defense) Anarky (outwit/pc and later gets his phasing/teleport and carry ability), Floronic man (really good tie up piece, can also increase his damage with Anarky's smoke cloud/move ability)

6 points left so i'd put Lunge on Anarky... making you 1 point short =/

Basically use penguin/egg-fu together, keep them based for the defend bonus as long as you can...egg-fu is big threat with his powers to begin with, energy explosion, psychic blast, blade claws, plasticity/regen, Stealth is his main defensive power as well, also has his outwit and perplex... Anarky can put him in stealth if there is not much for hindering with his smoke cloud...

This is probably the best bet in this set... I've got a few ideas that might be worthwhile...

Best suggestion I've got is use him with a Scientist Team that has E Ant-Man.
Then he's got 17 defense, 18 from range, which can be perplex by Mr. Pym himself (or hymself, hahaha).

Will Magnus has 18 Defend + TOughness.

Mmmm

Let's see... Egg's biggest weakness is his defense and mobility.

SR Eg Fu
SR Flash (defend + carry)
Dr Alchemy (mobility)
+ 11 pts of pogs

That sounds about right in a scientific way.

I just saw Prime getting smashed by a team of Egg Fu and Robins tonight

Scientist team!

Researcher 15

Mr. Fantastic 100

Spider-Man 50

Cave Carson 24

Chang Tzu 107

296

To me the key to making Egg Fu powerful isn't by using him offensively, it's his effect on the opponents that really causes him to shine. His -2 perplex power is crazy effective for it. Oh you have an 18 defense? Say hi to a 16, You do 4 damage? Not anymore say hi to your new 2 damage. 8 Range? Nah it's 6 now. Pair him up with some attackers and cheap taxi (MACH-1 is good for both actually 58 pts, Scientist keyword, Avengers TA so it won't go against your actions, Running Shot, Super Strength with some Toughness) and let him go to town. This is easier to do in 400+, but 300 is still doable.

Lot's of good suggestions in this thread. I would maybe try the scientest theme with the scientest pogs as mentioned before.

i have had luck with 4 multiplexes, SR Jay Garrick, and chang tzu in 400.

I would play Chang Tzu, 3 Multiplexes, and 100 pt SR Iron Man from M&M.