Hey guys, in another thread there was a person who was talking about a person at their venue who printed out copies of the dials for their figures and referred to them during the game.

I've always thought this was bad form and I would obviously frown on anyone who did it, but one of the people in the thread said that it was actually against the rules.

My question is this:

Is it against the rules to have printed copies of your character's dials during the game?

If it's not legal can you point me to where it discusses it in the rules?

I would say it beats the spirit of the rule that says you can't click forward or back without damage/healing. Not sure on the wording though.

Page 5 of the FF rules under Step 5: Placing Characters states that once the characters are placed, you cannot turn the dials unless directed to do so by a game effect. It specifically bans looking back or ahead on the dial, which is what a dial print-out does.

Wrote before BigDaddyHub posted....

I would assume it is illegal just as one is not supposed to be able to turn the dial on a figure until something occured requiring one to do so.

This keeps you from checking to see if you're on your last clix, or if pushing would be to your advantage, etc.

Not sure where the actual proof of all this is though.

In addition to what BigDaddyHub quoted:
"All information part of a HeroClix tournament once it begins is public information, except information on any dial not visible in the current slot, and any information specifically indicated as non-public by game rules, tournament rules, or in-game abilities."
(from the Comprehensive Tournament Rules - "1.5.5. Information" section)

I don't keep up any more, but past rules sets banned any "reference material" about dials.

Tarnish

I already get taxes for heroclix here in texas...

The only printed dial I allow at my venue is CoG Firelord due to misprint/errata. However, all player must be able to view the sheet.

Basically, some players memorize their dials for their characters before they start the game because of this rule.

and along with whats in the recent rule book, in a friendly non company sanctioned game You and your opponent decides how the 2 of you will play.

In a sanctioned event there isn't any circumventing of the rules or guidlines. And if a judge "rules" in favor of something that is blatently incorrect, have your rules/errata's/tournament guides there to point it out. I have found that most formal and normal venues will either have wifi or a computer there so you can "dig up" a ruling.

along with the next set, I'm looking forward to the direction the new company takes in clarifying situations like this.

Many times we have to know all the dial due to people "miss" clicking their dials.

We finally got the guy to admit that he cheated, by accusing him of cheating and his response was "i have not cheated in over 2 weeks"