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If Wonder Woman from AA has an object (lets say heavy, for the heck of it), and uses her "tie up" ability to use incapacitate a close combat character... how does that work?
I was under the impression that you must use an object if making a close combat attack, and I can't think of any other figure in the game that possesses super strength and incap.
Does she incap for 2 damage instead of 0? Does she not use the object? Is the object wasted and it does 0 damage but adds tokens?
If Wonder Woman from AA has an object (lets say heavy, for the heck of it), and uses her "tie up" ability to use incapacitate a close combat character... how does that work?
I was under the impression that you must use an object if making a close combat attack, and I can't think of any other figure in the game that possesses super strength and incap.
Does she incap for 2 damage instead of 0? Does she not use the object? Is the object wasted and it does 0 damage but adds tokens?
It would work like Gorgon and Maestro (Quake/Super Strength) or Controller (MC/SS). You get to make the attack without using the object.
The relevant rule in this case can be found on the top of page 13 of the FF rulebook:
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Using objects in close combat attacks. A character holding an object and making a close combat attack must use the object in the attack, as shown in Figure 17, unless the character is using a power that will deal 0 or no damage or making a close combat attack that will target more than one character. If a character is using a light object in a close combat attack, modify the character’s damage value by +1 for the attack; if a heavy object, modify the character’s damage value by +2 for the attack.
Incapacitate is an attack that will deal 0 damage, so the object is not used.
Note that the Stunning Blow feat changes this dynamic. Since the attack is no longer dealing 0 damage the object does get used. However, since Stunning Blow specifies that it deals damage equal to the printed damage value you won't get to use the damage bonus from the object.
Wonder Woman, tie-up, an object -- throw in a bottle of bourbon and you've got a pretty good weekend in Tijuana.
You fool!...the bottle of liquor IS the object. Sheesh.
God is smarter than we are....
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The relevant rule in this case can be found on the top of page 13 of the FF rulebook:
Incapacitate is an attack that will deal 0 damage, so the object is not used.
Note that the Stunning Blow feat changes this dynamic. Since the attack is no longer dealing 0 damage the object does get used. However, since Stunning Blow specifies that it deals damage equal to the printed damage value you won't get to use the damage bonus from the object.
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TIE UP: Wonder Woman can use Super Strength and Incapacitate (as if she had a range of 6). When she uses Incapacitate and successfully hits a target opposing character, you can give an action token to a second opposing character that has zero or one token that is adjacent to the target, if the attack roll would also hit the second character.
If you were to use Stunning Blow with Wonder Woman, dealing 4 clicks of damage and able to incap the target and an adjacent figure as well, would the 4 clicks of damage all go to the initial target, or could you split it between them?
I think by the wording of the power, the damage would all get dealt to the initial target, and the second figure would only get incapped, but I'd like to know for sure.