I had believed that you could turn off Indomitable and take pushing damage -- by the same logic, could you turn off the Giant symbol and become standard sized?

It's 1:30am and I can't face digging through the rulebook right now. I suspect that you can't turn off the Giant symbol, just as you couldn't turn off the flight symbol and be carried, but that does raise the question of how exactly you could turn off

thanks for any thoughts


Mike

The Giant symbol/ability is non-optional

for further reference, you cannot turn off the or the

you can however turn off the abilities granted by these symbols.

indom grants the willpower type power,

giant grants 2 things, one being giant sized (2 adjaceny for attack, being seen, no carry/knockback) which is NON optional.

the giant stride ability is the other ability, the one that says giants can walk through people and carry, that is optional, so if you turn off giant, thats what you are turning off (same with outwit.)

so u are right in your thinking, in that you cannot turn off and be carried.

the difference is if is on your dial, you cannot be carried, as per the rules. when you cancel indom, you are cancelling the willpower-like ability, so if you turned it off, you would still not be able to benifit from using shellhead (if that makes sense)

hope that helps.

You can't cancel symbols.

You can cancel abilities unless the ability states otherwise (such as the Giant Size ability).

and are symbols. You can't cancel them. There are a few ways to actually change these symbols during a game, but I don't feel like compiling that list right now.

Indomitable and Giant Size are abilities granted by possession of those symbols, respectively. Indomitable can be canceled because it's an ability and abilities, by default, can be canceled. Giant Size cannot be canceled because, even though it's an ability, its description specifically states it cannot be countered or canceled.

Being just a little nit-picky here, but the giant size does not grant 2 adjacency for attack. Giants can make close combat attacks up to two squares away, but it has nothing to do with adjacency.

Here's the text for giant size:

But if figs like High Evolutionary, HoT Moondragon, and Avengers Giant man become giants mid-dial, they can be "turned off" to become regulars, right?

Can Pym particles be "turned off" the same way during a game or not?

Yes. You cancel the power. The power is what provides the symbol, so without the power, there is no symbol.

All feats are optional, so you can cancel the Pym Particles feat. The result is no more giant symbol.




EDIT:
Note that powers are canceled until the end of the turn. Feats are canceled for only one action.

Ok so you keep the symbol but can you cancel the effect?

Well almost all feats are optional.

ATAs are not optional (that is, they cannot be canceled to gain access to the original team ability. The use of the team ability however is still optional).

Coordination is not Optional.

Some are also semi-optional:
Sidekicks Carrying restriction is not optional.

And some are super Optional for no explicable reason:
Such as Protected.

Basically, all feats are optional unless they're not

If you cancel a special power or feat granting the giant symbol, you do not keep the symbol.

If you have a symbol, you may cancel any optional abilities that are granted by that symbol.

Yes, and I've written out "except for certain feats, like Sidekick" so many times in discussing this feat that I didn't feel like typing it again.